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676 ‘s model.

The structure is what I mean. Alex02 made its gif and had post in Paralay Forum.
It looks so great.

@Methos
T-72B3
 

The EGS also had a torsion bar suspension. According to cross sectional drawings, there are two elastomer mounting elements: one around the support bearings, which connect the running gear module to the hull and one around the torsion bar, acting as air-tight seal. Unfortunately I am not sure if this is the correct translation of the German terms.
 
 
Here is a image from a patent showing a vehicle with a decoupled running gear (and diesel-electic drive). The elastomer connection is marked as 10. On the drawings of the EGS suspension, there is another elastomer connection/seal at the torsion bar. I suspect the M113 might have a similar system.
 

What madness is this?  I thought only the British and the Soviets messed around with opposed two stroke diesels during the cold war...
 

 
 
 

 

T-72 with "urban" kit

My inferior drawing of 195 haha..

A big article in russian about ERA in USSR http://btvt.narod.ru/raznoe/dz68.htm or
http://armor.kiev.ua/Tank/dz/1968/  

Maquette with U-5TS gun and cast glacis with edges
Maquette number 2
Layouts of equal glacis constructions, RHA; KDZ-68; RHA-STEF(glass textolite)-RHA
- in USSR in mid 60-s was made KDZ-68 ERA better than mid-80-s Kontakt-5 in durability(destroying only of 5% percent of ERA by hit of SC's versus 30% destroy in K-5);
- Blazer ERA had not any influence on Kontakt-1 ERA, cause K-1 was prepared by the time of Lebanon war started in 1982 and was tested in army;
- Blazer - surname of one of KDZ-68 constructors. Coincidence? Don't think so

I found some interesting drawings related to the candidates for french new generation tank ( 80s ).

A leclerc prototype ,TC2 TA ,modified turret layout. Gunner and commander were both located at the left of fighting compartment.

One of the Gun-over-hull concepts of AS series ,AS2 P2,

P48 concept, it was very closed to the Leclerc .

Latest clue,I also believe that it would be caused buy a Mortar...but the fragment of 125 mm HE found from the roof of vehicle was a doubtful point, maybe it just a coincidence.
hit point 

I think that Chinese equipments for UN force will become heavier and heavier so as to reduce the ratio of loss

Yes,fire from T-72, AFAIK, but I am not sure if it was a friendly fire accident.

the round hit at the hatch in right side .

It destroyed by a 125mm HE round

They found the round‘s remains

They found the round‘s remains

Some APFSDS marks on destroyed tanks:
 
T-72M ODS 1991:
 


 
 
Separatist T-72B m.1989:


(the most strange think is that this tank not blow out after sucht hit..)
 
 
UA Army T-64 BW after hit:


 
 
well known separatist T-64BW destroyed by two APFSDS hit:


 
 
Iraqi T-62 2003 OIF:
 
1st example:

 
2th example:

 
Russian/separatist T-72BW after friendly fire to destroy damage tank:

what is interesting - fist shoot was on sucht short distance that we can see sabot mark on plate -so distance was under 50m... interesting. 
About fins marks - 3BM42 in action?

Eurostatory2016 - Nexter munition (IMHO mucht more interesting then intenrational onanism on 130mm Rheinmettal gun)









Yes...datalink and programator in APFSDS-T Nexter F1B-NG:



And it's not firs western APFSDS-T whit data link and programator:



Why there is data-link/progamator in APFSDS-T round?
I have a theory:
Propably it is to somehow use a precursor that is "fired ahead" of the main rod.



So how the rod designs looks like here? The rod is made from two segments, the "precursor" and the main rod behind it. How they are connected? it might be some sort of polymer, glue that can be weakened by heat and the release precursor, and during flight rods heat up pretty nicely.

The precursor can also be relased based on a simple difference of speed between it and the main rod, and main rod can be slowed down by some sort of additional fins (aerodynamic breaks) released at specific point programmed by FCS. In such case precuros would initiate ERA and the main rod would have a clear way to main armor of the target.

How to cheat APS tough? Counting that precursor will be qualified by APS as threat and APS will be initiated, creating a time gap in APS reaction so it won't be able to counter the main rod? Possible yes, but then there is question, if APS will just not ignore the precursor, and this might happen, now of course there is a question how dangerous is precursor itself? For a MBT or vehicle with similiar levels of protection, for it's front it won't be dangerous in most cases, sides? If they do not have any addon armor, very possible. For lightweight platforms, yeah precursor also will be dangerous.

Of course these are only hypothesis, and we will see if other nations will also design APFSDS rounds with data link. Then we might get closer to the truth. Right now, treat it as food for thoughts.


And now French "new generation" OFL have progrmator. In case Abrams - datalink can be used for secure resons. In M1 gunner (not loader like in Leo-2) is setting type of ammo, so in theory there is posibilty that loader put for example APFSDS-T but gunner have still HEAT set up in FCS. So programator was some theory how to avoid sucht mistakes. But in Leclerc ammo? There are two barcode scaner in Leclerc Seriee XXI and bar code on ammo. So there is no posibility to "mistaken" loaded ammo.
So meybe my crazy theory about precursor in APFSDS could be real?

ps. USA had tested T-84 whit Knive = programator in new M829A4
Frencht had tested Knive ERA = pogramator   in new F1B-NG
Poland had tested Kinve ERA = "new" Leopard-2PL will have programator in Rh120mm gun...
Strange...

NEW TYPE 96. Changed engine and suspension with road wheels

NEW TYPE 96. Changed engine and suspension with road wheels

The structure is what I mean. Alex02 made its gif and had post in Paralay Forum.
It looks so great.

The structure is what I mean. Alex02 made its gif and had post in Paralay Forum.
It looks so great.

The structure is what I mean. Alex02 made its gif and had post in Paralay Forum.
It looks so great.

The structure is what I mean. Alex02 made its gif and had post in Paralay Forum.
It looks so great.

type 89 td's head on type 69's body