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http://www.ibiblio.org/hyperwar/USN/rep/Kamikaze/AAA-Summary-1045/#I
 
This is a good breakdown of AA effectiveness by type in a few different ways.

Regarding AA effectiveness, I'd love to find the SoDak's action reports again.
 
It is worth remembering that the Pacific Theater wasn't the only naval combat going, and without competent naval strike aviation (itself not a trivial task in the slightest, especially if you want to stuff it into a ship) battleships' combat power was a real and useful thing.
 
As always, the context makes a huge difference for how units fit into the combined arms system as a whole.
 
Also, an interesting thing I intend to read at some point: http://www.researcheratlarge.com/Ships/BB57/1942DamageReport/GuadalcanalDamageRpt.html

It's kind of funny, because the I-26's hit on Saratoga is used to crap on turbo-electric propulsion because it just so happened to be in the right place to knock out the bus and take her propulsion down for a while. Turbo-electric drive was pretty cool in some big ways, and the downside of weight was a bit bad but it was low in the ship. The right sort of fluke hit can make a big change and I'd much rather the fluke that left Saratoga without power for a few minutes and have four times as much compartmentalization aft if I take a hit to the shafts like Prince of Wales.
 
(I'm generally a fan of turbo-electric drive in ships, and tend to agree with this article)
 
There's also some examples of ships getting systems knocked out that are really notable, such as Bismarck getting shot to an unfightable hulk that resembled a warship only as much as a Viking funeral pyre.

Regarding AA effectiveness, I'd love to find the SoDak's action reports again.
 
It is worth remembering that the Pacific Theater wasn't the only naval combat going, and without competent naval strike aviation (itself not a trivial task in the slightest, especially if you want to stuff it into a ship) battleships' combat power was a real and useful thing.
 
As always, the context makes a huge difference for how units fit into the combined arms system as a whole.
 
Also, an interesting thing I intend to read at some point: http://www.researcheratlarge.com/Ships/BB57/1942DamageReport/GuadalcanalDamageRpt.html

Thats what they tried with the middle east 

Pics don't seem to be working for me here or there.

Pretty much any ideology capable of forming the core of a decently functioning state (and a bunch that aren't) around has gotten absolutely dismantled over the past century.
 
When you start wistfully thinking about what could've been under Gamal Nasser of all people, it's time to drink heavily and find a new region with a less painful history to study, like maybe the Balkans or the Indian Subcontinent.

USS Colorado, off NYC, 1932

This is like that part of the bible (Judges 1:19) where God's wrath is turned aside by iron chariots.
 
Moral of the story - mankind is working up to pimp-slapping the cosmic powers.

Yep, it's a cool and good museum.

Wow the Ruble's fallen off hard since 2013.
 
Also yes, Russia's economy was preposterously depressed after the looting that was Russia's welcome to glorious capitalism (blanket) party.

Pretty much any ideology capable of forming the core of a decently functioning state (and a bunch that aren't) around has gotten absolutely dismantled over the past century.
 
When you start wistfully thinking about what could've been under Gamal Nasser of all people, it's time to drink heavily and find a new region with a less painful history to study, like maybe the Balkans or the Indian Subcontinent.

Pretty much any ideology capable of forming the core of a decently functioning state (and a bunch that aren't) around has gotten absolutely dismantled over the past century.
 
When you start wistfully thinking about what could've been under Gamal Nasser of all people, it's time to drink heavily and find a new region with a less painful history to study, like maybe the Balkans or the Indian Subcontinent.

I think you mean white.
 

 
Yes I still think launching standoff munitions at Mach 3+ from 70,000 feet gives some super cool capabilities, why do you ask?

I don't think conventional ABMs like this are too destabilizing, since they're mostly useful against very small numbers of missiles, as would be launched by the DPRK or some such. The amount of interceptors you need doesn't scale one to one with the number of inbound missiles, as more sophisticated states like Russia can use decoys to drive up the number of missiles needed to ensure a warhead kill.
You can get around this somewhat by doing terminal intercept (which limits that geographic coverage of each launch platform), or chucking nukes at the inbounds. Which has its own issues.

The 17th Century is notable for having the granddady of all the demographic demolishing events, and it brought a whole bucketload of malnutrition. However I'm not 100% sure about those skellies in particular.

Hilariously enough, you know who immediately plow their money right the hell back into the economy?
 
People who can't afford everything they need, let alone want.
 
 
As far as progressive taxation goes, just because it doesn't cure the entire problem doesn't mean that it isn't a useful palliative or in fact that a sound system wouldn't include it or something functionally equivalent. The more money someone has, the easier it is for them to get it, and I don't see many other ways to redress that imbalance without getting into the realm of fundamental changes.

A climate where the onus of the taxes weren't actually placed on the middle and lower upper class would be pretty cool no matter how it got done, and a lot of the Left is saying that cutting taxes on the rich isn't the panacea the Right makes it out to be, and it really doesn't end up trickling down, because frankly why would it? Wealth at the top does very little to drive the sort of mass demand that you need to ramp up supply to meet.
 
I do agree that outsourcing is a great evil, but enough about the morale of software engineers nationwide.
 
 
There's a lot of variables there to deal with, and I'm not really sure perching the economy on a bubble is a thing we want to do here.

At least the US is, not sure about other places.

Apparently the case was made that maneuvering was sufficient for an SR-71 to evade intercept by a MiG-25.

Yeah, as far as that goes, I have a friend who became basically unemployed once he got out of the lowest bracket, which is a pretty nasty way for a system to develop problems. Considering that in general the older the person the more they need the money, that's incentivizing problems.

It's kind of cool and it's kind of really a great way to fuck people looking for some sort of light employment to let them get through school.

Because when in the history of man has anything ever been solved by a thoughtful consideration and reworking of problematic things when you can slap a band-aid over it?
 
Man qua man is an irrational animal not prone to introspection, especially if it brings up the uncomfortable prospect that they benefited from something bad. So try to find the easiest way to link feel-good actions and something that will actually mitigate or avoid structural damage.
 
No it isn't optimal and I'd dearly love to do better, but that's the downside of a society being a continual process, and I don't see any way around that.

Don, I think you're off the mark with conflating reflexive loathing of corporations and minimum wage advocacy. Sure I hate corporations, but that's as much an implementation thing as anything. Market economics are a pretty decent way of levelling out supply and demand in cases where buyers and sellers have similar power. Some times it's the right tool for the job, and that's great. Sometimes it isn't and when it isn't it's tantamount to letting the fox watch the henhouse. If they're placed in an environment where it's profitable to create a ton of tragedies of the commons, they'll do it, just look at China's environment. Because of that, just letting the corporations have free rein to chip away to the least money they can pay at the bottom end of the scale is preposterously immoral based on the suffering it would cause.
 
I really like the mincome idea because first off it's straight out honest. Second, it isn't a byzantine horror show that's going to grow a cancerous bureaucracy to enforce eleventeen thousand rules. Sure it's just handing people money, but from there it's all on the person to do what they can with it, and it's a hell of a lot better than the security theater we put people through now. At the bottom of the class structure labor negotiations are totally messed up, the employer has a huge pool to draw from, while if the worker can't get a job, they're in trouble and hoping welfare can cover the gap. It's a really distorted market, and people having some security to actually try and make more of themselves than they were would be a good thing. I really need to look up the data from the Canadian town that tried it, it was really interesting.
 
Incidentally, the people claiming the increases will be matched exactly by inflation, that's wrong. Doubling the minimum wage isn't a matter of suddenly everyone's income doubles, which is roughly what it would take to match the minimum wage increase with inflation. Inexpensive things would get somewhat more expensive (not twice as much because they're not all labor costs), but suddenly their main customers have a hell of a lot more money. Their dollars wouldn't go quite as far as before but they'd certainly have more purchasing power.
 
 
Of course it is. It's utterly preposterous.
 
 
 
Light everyone responsible for the documentation on fire. Also light whoever coded the bit that misattributed this quote on fire.

I think you mean white.
 

 
Yes I still think launching standoff munitions at Mach 3+ from 70,000 feet gives some super cool capabilities, why do you ask?