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Just finished watching this: Interesting to note that the turret ring was moved back 20 cm facilitated by the swapping of the old MTU MB873 with the more compact MTU MB883 engine providing the same power output. Quick and neat way of saving a lot of space and weight, whilst also achieving a more central turret position. Will be interesting to see wether Rheinmetall will follow suit with their upgraded chassis for their KF51 project.
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Are there detailed photos of the damaged one the Russians recently captured?
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Interview of Ukrainian Leopard 2 crews: https://www.spiegel.de/international/world/on-the-front-in-ukraine-going-into-battle-in-a-leopard-2-tank-a-9baffb53-1e5b-4a18-8ec5-173d067721af
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No it's one of the "x"-tech NERA/NxRA external addon types. I don't know which letter they use today, you claim E, which might be right. IIRC the combined thickness of the addon armour, i.e. a steel + mystery layer + steel sandwhich bolted together, is 65mm based on pictorial evidence, 45mm of that consisting of what is believed to be high hardness steel.
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The upper glacis is most likely a 45mm plate @ 82 deg, which is equivalent to ~350mm of RHA. An additional atleast 45mm of plating has then been added on top of that for the 2A7V bumping protection there up to above 700mm RHAe. That said this protection value is taken from a Swedish leak regarding Strv122 protection levels whilst using 90's D-tech external addon armour. It's rather likely that the 2A7V uses newer (E, F, G-Tech etc) external armour packages which provide even better protection.
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Weight of the Leopard 2A7DK is apparently 68.6 tons.
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Perhaps, its a plausible explanation, although thats the first time I would have heard of that.
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That does seem a bit strange. I know the 2A6 has a -9 and +20 elevation. Not sure if it has anything to do with increased recoil travel with the higher pressure L55A1 ? Although I would've thought that could be balanced out by modification to the hydraulic recoil dampers. Quoted weight also appears strange at 61.5-64 tons, considering the 2A7V is 67.5 tons.
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Gonna be interesting to see configuration they're going to get, and the weight.
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Just read the following: https://www.ukrinform.net/rubric-ato/3667929-rheinmetall-in-talks-with-kyiv-on-supply-of-panther-tanks.html
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I have a feeling the superior protection and firepower of the 2A7NO, not to mention far easier logistics considering all neighbours use of the Leo, is what was the decider. The rest is just drama as the chief of defence didnt want new tanks in the first place, but instead wanted attack helis. Regarding the former, I guess with certain mods 64.5 tons is possible, if things such as the belly armour is removed. I have my doubts that lithium batteries with sufficient capacity would be lighter than the APU though.
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Regarding the Norwegian weight limit of 61.5 t, if that is upheld then the Leopard 2A7NO is going to lack some pretty substantial protection in places as compared to the 2A7DK which weighs in at 68+ t. Or was this Norwegian requirement amended?
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Active Protection System (APS) for tanks
Pardus replied to asaf's topic in Ballistics Science Discussion
Some new information on strikeshield from a couple days ago: https://www.edrmagazine.eu/iav-conference-rheinmetall-details-its-hybrid-armour-solution -
Active Protection System (APS) for tanks
Pardus replied to asaf's topic in Ballistics Science Discussion
Yeah, I think a small high pressure water (or some cleaning/solvent fluid) spray nozzle for each small camera would be simpler (ala those you see for headlights on modern cars), but Im not sure that would always work. -
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Pardus replied to asaf's topic in Ballistics Science Discussion
According to Rheinmetall Strikeshield has the lowest detectable emissions of all APS out there atm. The problem with optical sensors is dirt, which can quite quickly render such sensors useless.
