EnsignExpendable Posted July 9, 2018 Report Share Posted July 9, 2018 12 minutes ago, LoooSeR said: Speaking about SC: Conviction. @EnsignExpendable Enjoy I can't translate back what is srong with it. In Russian language words have different forms to match other words and meaning of sentence. Everything on this placard is broken - conjugation and matching of words. It should have said "Accept only victory!" but it is broken and phrase "get only victorious" can describe how wrong this is. And all others are the same. This is grammatically correct if this guy's name is Pobed and the poster is asking you to accept him in Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoooSeR Posted July 9, 2018 Report Share Posted July 9, 2018 @EnsignExpendable More "Danger. This machine remotely controlled can begin suddenly" Umm what? Участок сокращения ("Area of reduction") is probably a place where you either shorten people or fire them from their work. A private company that is called "Private company" Also i am yet to make good screenshot of this patch. Instead of expected "Russia" it says "Rodina". Collimatrix 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnsignExpendable Posted July 9, 2018 Report Share Posted July 9, 2018 The Private Company private company is probably the one that produces Truck brand trucks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoooSeR Posted July 9, 2018 Report Share Posted July 9, 2018 53 minutes ago, EnsignExpendable said: This is grammatically correct if this guy's name is Pobed and the poster is asking you to accept him in I tried to make them accept Pobed, but they keep dying. Spoiler EnsignExpendable 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoooSeR Posted July 9, 2018 Report Share Posted July 9, 2018 Also, from screenshots you may saw that player character hold his pistol in a tacticool hipster asshole way. This is because spirit of St.Jason Born and beloved St.John Wick is strong in Game_main_hero_1. Spoiler It is so strong that you can play with humans like toys. Spoiler Or human basketball Spoiler Some police brutality Spoiler Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnsignExpendable Posted July 9, 2018 Report Share Posted July 9, 2018 What time frame is this game supposed to take place in? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scolopax Posted July 10, 2018 Report Share Posted July 10, 2018 5 hours ago, EnsignExpendable said: What time frame is this game supposed to take place in? From what I remember it was probably modern day for the time of its release. There was a flashback of the Gulf War for one mission. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoooSeR Posted July 10, 2018 Report Share Posted July 10, 2018 18 hours ago, EnsignExpendable said: What time frame is this game supposed to take place in? Game is from 2010, set is modern days. Although now some parts of it look outdated. Like Soviet-themed brothel run by Russian mafia, with Volga parked in a garage as luxury car. Should have been Mers 600 series for lulz. Blatnie reg. number on this Volga, BTW. Spoiler Sorry, i had to do that. Spoiler Yet another fine example of translation fuck up. I inserted russian words from this sign into Google translator and it translated them as Papa bar. Now i know why such bizzare sums of words happen. In Russian it says "Little daddy beam/log" or something like this. Google translator translated "bar" as stick/log/beam. And game is full of those things that are slightly off. Like this box for Andrew. BTW that mission happens in St.Petersburg and i can probably find where this level is supposed to be. Spoiler Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Collimatrix Posted July 10, 2018 Report Share Posted July 10, 2018 1 hour ago, LoooSeR said: Yet another fine example of translation fuck up. In Russian it says "Little daddy beam/log" or something like this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnsignExpendable Posted July 10, 2018 Report Share Posted July 10, 2018 Needs to have the numbers and letters match for maximum blat. Although if it's some kind of scrub tier crime lord that could only afford a Volga then it's probably okay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoooSeR Posted July 10, 2018 Report Share Posted July 10, 2018 When you make too much noise in Venom during night mission in a foggy swamp Spoiler Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoooSeR Posted July 10, 2018 Report Share Posted July 10, 2018 @Collimatrix And here is what i was speaking about Splinter Cell Conviction AI being in general similar to SWAT 3's AI because they use similar-ish systems. Bad guys in Conviction can overwatch doorways/chokepoints (like criminals and police officers in SWAT 3) during special behavior "i am not going there because all my friends were killed there". Spoiler On those pics soldiers watching for different doorways/windows in different parts of level SCC devs went futher and made windows special chokenodes so AI overwatch those as well (player can use windows to move in/out of rooms) Spoiler AI also can search for a player on ledges, railings and pipes (which are used by player to climb/move around levels) Spoiler Also, they react to changes in enviroment if it happened in front of them. Door opened and they knew that rest of their comrades were killed in next room: Spoiler Or if one of baddies saw something bad (like their friend being killed in a next room) they can assemble a group and overwatch/ambush player. Happens if player location is either unknown or if it is outside of AI navigation system boundaries. Spoiler Relaxed Spetsnaz soldiers. 1 killed, one of them saw that and they run about 10 meters away into storage area and now they wait. They saw their friend being shot through that window If area have several floors, squad can overwatch several entrances between different floors. As i understand in SCC several zones ("rooms") can be assembled into bigger area in AI nav system, and if this big area is declared by AI as "no-go" a behavior with securing all entry points kicks in. Spoiler I silently killed soldiers that covered 3rd entry from staircases to sneak here and make screenshots. On first pic soldiers are watching railings on second floor that player can jump over to first floor, second pic shows soldiers overwatching second staircase. Another example: 2 stairs lead to next hall, but both of them are covered by enemies. I used my extra stealth capabilities (don't pay any attention to bad guys counter) and sneaked inside They are not bad at getting you (or your last know position) surrounded. Spoiler Overal, some of potential of SWAT 3's nav system for AI was sort-of implemented here, but it is far from perfect and sometimes not even "good". For example soldiers on first pics were overwatching just random doorways and windows on the level, which is why i had no problem making screenshots. Soldiers also don't stack up well/more often to doorways or at least try to get out of death funnels in SCC, unlike SWAT 3 where they tend to do that even without orders in case of SWAT officers. Spoiler Even entry to the room is done better in SWAT 3, where officers are performing multi-stage actions to push inside of a room. SCC AI area/room clearing tactics is non existent (they don't "clear" it, but just walk randomly to next corner detected by nav system inside of the area or to another special nodes like window to look out of it). In SWAT 3 soldiers were sweeping whole room, opening cabinets, lockers, showers and bathrooms, making sure that room is secure. During room clearing shape of the room and structure was taken into account (to what extend 1999 level of AI tech in games allowed), resulting in squad splitting up when needed, clearing corners and places that were not visible from entry point behind objects inside of the room like furniture and so on. In SCC they open a door to the room, than one guy enter it, look left and right (special animation) while standing in a doorway for few seconds, pick random direction and start to walk around aimlessly, showing his back to 19 different directions from which bullet can meet his skull. They even backtrack and check basically same place several times in very short time because of this randomness. Spoiler Suspect found in wardrobe by AI, arrested. AI is not moded. He is opening this glass door. Squad behavior was used by devs almost only to control alert level of group of bots and kick "alerted" and "combat" mode for all squad when needed, with some small exceptions during combat and special case with "we are not going there" mood of bots. Cover system is very standart - cover node or something similar is attached to level geometry only in specific area, from which bots are playing "i am peaking from cover with my whole body visible and giant red circle painted all over me" animations, unlike much more dynamic and fluid system in SWAT 3. The only time when AI actions were serious problem is when i was doing "hand-to-hand takedowns only" self-challenge and AI in next factory hall diceded to enter "where are not going there" mode and overwatched in big numbers the only 2 doors to their part of the factory. There was like 5 dudes per entry point. This is probably the only behavior that affect meta game as much as i would like. I like their "2 tier" nav system when AI can understand multi-story buildings. During contact they sometimes even shout "he is on 1st/2nd floor!". This feature of navigation/spacial awareness also allows AI to do those complete "lock downs" of areas/places, which is pretty cool. But after playing some time there is a feeling in the back of my mind that with some sort of global AI/AI commander this game could have been way more intense, playing mind games and cat&mouse with squad of enemies and their leader. It is just wasted potential here that bothers me. AI actions are not systematic and don't affect player's actions much even when it supposed to be (like when enemies are becoming alerted after they found dead body). So player is stripped of plenty "ohh shit" moments, stripped of higher level of intentionality of gameplay, feeling that bad guys are serious danger and as a result meaningfulness of stealth is damaged. In fact this game is less 3rd person stealth action and more like "play it as YOU like to play" situation, when stealth is not really necessary for a player to use to achive success. Hell, it is even easier in SCC to play it as cover based shooter than a stealth game. Sad! 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LoooSeR Posted July 11, 2018 Report Share Posted July 11, 2018 Launched Russian embassy level in hunter mode and looked more carefully around. "Without translation" Spoiler "Expense". Trata is written, should have been Tara ("Packings" or something around that). Maybe this is some sort of satire over Russian budget and corruption? It wasn't enough for devs to write silly shit in Russian, but the futher i go, the more ways they found to make me cringe! They are breaking new grounds! "noitaterpretnI" Spoiler Same shit! Let's enter this Russian embarrassme and meet Iambastardor. Nobody is on reception! How terrible! At least according to text they have "Ambassador's App". Very usefull, download it now! Spoiler Now there is a some body on a reception "netihw oT" brand of cleaning products. Also, while we are on a subjects of products, don't forget to buy Philips for your Nivea for men. Spoiler Huh? I am not sure what you are trying to say, Splinter Cell. Still not sure Modern masterpiece inside, for a lot of drinking. Spoiler If big amount of alcohol wasn't clear enough that this is Russian embassy, level designers left some clues for you. Spoiler Collimatrix 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnsignExpendable Posted July 12, 2018 Report Share Posted July 12, 2018 @LoooSeR you should post these in the Sad Translations facebook group. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoooSeR Posted July 12, 2018 Report Share Posted July 12, 2018 1 hour ago, EnsignExpendable said: @LoooSeR you should post these in the Sad Translations facebook group. You can post this, i don't have KnigaLitso account. Also, i am going to post more today, as there are like 6 levels in Russia, each with different theme/place and i hope new ways to make me laugh. EnsignExpendable 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoooSeR Posted July 12, 2018 Report Share Posted July 12, 2018 Played 2 levels of SCC (Mozdok grounds and Yastreb complex), some excerpts from them: Spoiler Left one says "Workers unite!", but Unite word is in wrong form, so this placard sounds more like order to specific group of workers instead of broad exhortation. Right one is "Victory. USSR", it is passable. Work. Rodina. USSR. Speaking about Rodina... Let's see what those guys of "Rodina Armed forces" are guarding "Equipment Danger noituaC" No surprise that there are dangerous things in this base, it is written on the wall: "Dangerous province" Problem is that dangerous is written in a form that suggest that this is about dangerous [male person]. Should have been "No step" but what it means is "None pace/stride", i guess. "King's petrol". Now we know where those commies put all that petrol they took from Nikolay II But i know why they still didn't used it. Probably because commies managed to package power in those boxes: "Superpower [country/nation]". Wow, packaged superpower of USSR! Spoiler Those Faust tracks were delivering some Scientific supplies. How do i know? It litterally says Scientific supplies on boxes! I would like to see inside of generic Scientific supplies. And they do need them, as some control panels with keyboards and mouses have no monitors And those computers that do have monitors only have Planet Managment programm that ask you to select planet Small Hummer So devs not only can't into Russian, but they can't into Russian AFVs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoooSeR Posted July 12, 2018 Report Share Posted July 12, 2018 Spoiler While SCC can drop to 20-30 FPS on my coffee-filled notebook, Metro: LL runs really well, above 90 FPS usually and going down to 60-70 during really serious fights or several demanding effects on the screen. I didn't put all max settings in Metro, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoooSeR Posted July 13, 2018 Report Share Posted July 13, 2018 SCC singleplayer is like: Spoiler Door is locked, objective marker is on the door which is 3 meters away from the car from which you took this new cool "gadget", plus objective itself is projected as white big text right on the door plus in the middle of the screen there is tutorial. Peeking revealed... another objective marker and giant projected text with objective on the objective Let's sneak in! Those projected objectives markes are out of control I guess only people that dress like that will carry Desert Eagle into real job I am still not sure with all those text in my screen what level designers wanted me to do here Example of why projected text is not a good idea. Who is this Obin anyway? No shit, Sherlock I could understand that after opening one, it is not like projected text and objective marker are not used here Seriously, stop Yeah, thanks for telling Player_1 that level designer made a second way to go in next room. Whithout that text it would be hard to see open windows nearby, one that looked exactly like all previous windows player_1 climbed through Even cutscenes are fancy in this game. This is interogation moment, when you locked in 5x5 meters area where you can choose which object to use to make NPC vomit next bit of very interesting and totaly not cringy plot. Usually to make NPC to depleat his script you need to smash his head over several objects. Also, i thought we were looking for Obin, not that Russian guy. Tell me, where is Obin! What you did to him?! Sam hit that mafia guy so hard that texture on piano with piano company maker name fall of as a complete sprite/decal. No shit, you tried to kill him just 10 minutes earlier in previous tutorial level. And where Sam got this Deagle? Evil ninja dudes with wallhack goggles appeared just in time I have excuse - i am holding a hostage and aiming Deagle at people Why all fancy SF ninjas here hold guns in fancy hipster ways? Is that standart training program? Evil bad guys in SCC are like: Spoiler /.../ Time to deal with scientists that are crucial to our plan to take President's hat of power. Killing your own eggheads should be also a coop activity! Just to be sure Collimatrix 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoooSeR Posted July 14, 2018 Report Share Posted July 14, 2018 SCC is done, maybe will do a review next week of it. Singleplayer is very short, like 4 hours or something close to it. It feels like CoD MW was bitten by Jason Bourne movies, and rest of it was filled with objective text projections. Spoiler I mean a lot of projected objectives on everything. Spoiler Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoooSeR Posted July 14, 2018 Report Share Posted July 14, 2018 Andrey Kobin beat up simulator 2010. Still don't know who the hell is Obin. Spoiler THIS IS SPARTA. Nice clipping Umm.. i think i broke something So this whole deal was for a... promotion? UhhhhhhhhhhHHHHHHHHHHNNNGNGNG Wait a minute... is this a president? Woman with blond hairs? Spoiler So this whole time i was beating up people and inserting flag poles into their shoulders without anesthesia to save Hillary Clinton?! Why i can't shoot her instead? I want to be with bad guys! Is this how Trump really got elected? Is Ubisoft planning to make part 2 of of SCC where you fight Russians that invaded US and main mission will be to kill Trump in the end? Collimatrix 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scolopax Posted July 15, 2018 Report Share Posted July 15, 2018 7 hours ago, LoooSeR said: Is Ubisoft planning to make part 2 of of SCC where you fight Russians that invaded US and main mission will be to kill Trump in the end? That would be CoD: MW2. SCC is actually a prequel to it. CoD 4: MW is a standalone game. LoooSeR 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoooSeR Posted July 15, 2018 Report Share Posted July 15, 2018 Speaking about MW2 and SCC conections... Spoiler MW2: Both games had scenes of EMP hiting city and than fighting in it, plus fighting in White House Spoiler When you automated AI cover system but did not payed more attention to what objects could be considered by it as a "cover" Spoiler "I am so dumb!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoooSeR Posted July 15, 2018 Report Share Posted July 15, 2018 SCC deleted, so no more screenshot spamming from it. Although i still have plenty for a review. After that i will try to do Metro:LL Depo level short comparison with... FEAR. Yes. And AI of bad guys (predictably). Spoiler Spoiler Spoiler Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoooSeR Posted July 16, 2018 Report Share Posted July 16, 2018 Spoiler Ohh, and old gag. Spoiler Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoooSeR Posted July 17, 2018 Report Share Posted July 17, 2018 I spotted an enemy! He is there! Spoiler -Where? There? -Yes! -Send soldiers there, now! -Found him? -No! -Send more people there! -Nothing! -MORE! -MOAR!! -There is nothing here! -LOOK HARDER *After some time* -Camera moves to show wide comedic shot- -Showing huge audience that was watching all this- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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