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  1. Im currently a tanker in the german army. Broadly speaking the tactics are similar. A tank attack looks basicaly the same in 1944 as it does in 2020 just slower and less deadly. A simple defense would also look similar but be fought with more mobility with frequent position changes. The biggest change is that today a tank has a more narrow focus. Anti infantry work is left to pzgrenns and their ifvs if possible and anti tank/ifv work is the main job of the tank. We carry a mojority of apfsds and some heat and no proper he round even though it exists already.
  2. " During rapid rate of fire it is not uncommon to be forced to break off firing when the recoil of the gun has reached its permissible limit (cease fire). ­ A rate of fire of 20 rounds per minute is only permitted in exceptional cases when circumstances so dictate." I dont know how you can read this as being only a theoretical limitation to the rate of fire because you cant acheive it anyways. The way that is written sais to me they can achieve this rof at least for short periods of time but shouldnt unless there are exceptional circumstances. If you keep in mind how variable lo
  3. I was just about to correct my post i meant the vertical ammo in the hull which is far easier to access. Also limitations that never matter are not put into such reports.
  4. First i agree that 20rpm isnt really a practical rate of fire especially for longer durations. It is however a reasonable indicator that the loaders position isnt as bad as represented by the chieftain who btw also uses the hull storage for some reason to demonstrate how bad it is rather than the "ready" ammo in the turret. I didnt quote the entire passage because the question was if the panther or sherman in this instance had rate of fire limitations based on how quickly the gun can be loaded so in effect is the loaders position well enough desigened with the assertion being pa
  5. 15rpm isnt exactly great in comparison when the french report has this to say about panther rof A rate of fire of 20 rounds per minute is only permitted in exceptional cases when circumstances so dictate.
  6. Yea they should really let their inf and ifvs carry 120mm smoothbore guns around.
  7. does that mean the airgap for the main charge is the distance from the first plate triggering the spaced rule to the first plate the main charge encounters?
  8. Yea youre right. though with this change ill redesign the nera elements anyways since its no longer necessary to have 2 different ones for the precursor and main charge.
  9. You just calculated 10° from vertical. So K2 is about 155mm Basic concept looks like this (picture obviously not to scale). So in short the above los is taken care of by the roofprotection.
  10. If you want to optimize for weight a single NERA light at 10°from horizontal followed by a single NERA heavy at 10° from horizontal will easily stopp all threats and for 1m^2 it weighs around 3 tons. you will need a build depth of a meter to reach good coverage though.
  11. not saying you did but the array i posted isnt primarily weight optimized
  12. its not that hard really. if i just take my array and remove the first and last RHA plates and switch my first NERA layer to ERA ill save quite some weight. i could also space my HHA plates more for better effect against KE But it would reduce the uparmouring potential and increase the armours bulk by quite a bit
  13. The armour sceme i came up with: 10mm RHA, 150mm cavity with NERA-light at 14° from horizontal, 30mm RHA, 205mm cavity with NERA-light at 10° from horizontal, 30mm RHA, 25mm HHA (5mm airgap for mounting), 25mmHHA (5mm airgap for mounting), 25mm HHA (5mm airgap for mounting), 30mmRHA Against ATGM 360mm precurser and 960mm main charge First RHA layer Pres = 360 -10 =350 First NERA light layer Pres = 350/2.5 - 1.5*74 = 29 Second RHA Pres = 29 -30 = -1 precurser defeated Second NERA light Pres = 960/3.3 -1.5*103 = 137 Third RHA Pres = 137 - 3
  14. Just stack several HHA plates and encase them in RHA. You get whatever thickness you want.
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