The Small Arms Thread, Part 8: 2018; ICSR to be replaced by US Army with interim 15mm Revolver Cannon.

[Ramlaen]

46 minutes ago, Sturgeon said:

 

Isn't UKLandPower Drummond's blog?

 

Yes that is an article he wrote promoting HK rifles in Creedmoor and Creedmoor as a fallback in case 6.8GP fails.

 

Oh, and that the Creedmoor projectile being adopted by SOCOM was an EPR developed for the 6.5 Textron carbine.

 

Edit: as a bonus, 5.56 was a fallback for SPIW

[Sturgeon]

1 hour ago, Ramlaen said:

 

Yes that is an article he wrote promoting HK rifles in Creedmoor and Creedmoor as a fallback in case 6.8GP fails.

 

Oh, and that the Creedmoor projectile being adopted by SOCOM was an EPR developed for the 6.5 Textron carbine.

 

Edit: as a bonus, 5.56 was a fallback for SPIW

 

Still living the shill lifestyle I see.

[OnlySlightlyCrazy]

As a side note, the US can no longer claim that M855A1 fragments by accident. "A noteworthy feature of the fielding of M855A1 is the inclusion of the terminal effects protocol for testing soft target performance during lot acceptance testing to ensure Soldiers are getting consistent ammunition. The M855A1 is the first round to undergo such a rigorous test during lot acceptance." (An Army Outgunned-A Response Anonymous. Military Review; Fort Leavenworth Vol. 92, Iss. 6, (Nov/Dec 2012): 102-103.) Not that we ever should have, mind. Bullets exist to kill, we gain nothing by being bashful about it.

[Sturgeon]

I don't think they ever did.

[Oedipus Wreckx-n-Effect]

 

@Donward is writing for the NRA now?

[Meplat]

4 hours ago, Oedipus Wreckx-n-Effect said:

 

@Donward is writing for the NRA now?

In (semi) defense, I used to know an armed guard who carried a K frame S&W in .32-20.

Famous for drilling an armed robber across a (large) bank lobby, between the eyes, single action.

He drew, thumbed back the hammer, and  punched the guy's ticket.

 

Now, chances are you see some goof with a SAA, he's a poser. But in some places, he may be just challenging himself.

I know one guy who CC's a cap& ball Remington, I'd not want to fuck with, at anything under 50 yards. (Preferably at 1000+ yards, so I can use a BREN).

[That_Baka]

 

Kovrov experimental stuff

1) 7.62x54mmR I.N Kolesnikov MG. Delayed blowback action . 1926.

2) 7.62x54mmR KoCo Kovrov Collective rifle .1928. Short recoil

3)DP with feed system designed  by G.F Kubynov S.G Razorenov .Uses stripper clips.

4)7.62x54mmR Yurchencko YuAS Shvkal MG.Short recoil operation

5)7.62x54mmR KB-P-610 LMG . Bigger brother of RPD. 1949.

6)7.62x39mm A.S Konstantinov 2-B-P-40 LMG.Delayed blowback.

6)7.62x54mmR A.S Konstantinov 2-B-V-10 sniper rifle. Gas operated rotating bolt action.

[LoooSeR]

[Hisname]

[Sturgeon]

A lot of these images don want to display for me, @That_Baka and @Hisname.

[Oedipus Wreckx-n-Effect]

On 11/3/2018 at 6:06 AM, LoooSeR said:

UPSA

Underwater Practical Shooting Association

[Belesarius]

4 hours ago, Sturgeon said:

A lot of these images don want to display for me, @That_Baka and @Hisname.

Same here.

 

[That_Baka]

Fixed i think

[Hisname]

8 hours ago, Sturgeon said:

A lot of these images don want to display for me, @That_Baka and @Hisname.

[That_Baka]

Kalashnikov-Petrov self loading carabine

[Hisname]

2 hours ago, That_Baka said:

Kalashnikov-Petrov self loading carabine

The bolt group of this carbine repeats the bolt of the Garand rifle.

 

[CDNcommissar]

Greetings from People's Provinces of Soviet Canuckistan, comrades!

[CDNcommissar]

UCF has a database of smokeless powders (apologies if this has already been posted ITT or another)

 

SMOKELESS POWDERS DATABASE

[CDNcommissar]

Forgotten Weapons - PK/PKM manuals

(apologies if this has already been posted ITT or another)

[Belesarius]

5 hours ago, CDNcommissar said:

Greetings from People's Provinces of Soviet Canuckistan, comrades!

Welcome to SH, from another Canuckistani. While we are a documents based forum, and appreciate the additions, the documents thread for firearms is here:

 

 

Cheers.

 

[Oedipus Wreckx-n-Effect]

Thank God, a new Canadian. 

 

Our last one has gotten stale.

[CDNcommissar]

2 hours ago, Belesarius said:

Welcome to SH, from another Canuckistani. While we are a documents based forum, and appreciate the additions, the documents thread for firearms is here:

 

 

Cheers.

 

Greetings comrade Belesarius!

 

Do I repost the links to the PK/PKM manuals in the repository thread?

 

 

2 hours ago, Oedipus Wreckx-n-Effect said:

Thank God, a new Canadian. 

 

Our last one has gotten stale.

After he has visited a friendly re-education center, he will be a new Canadian as well...

 

[CDNcommissar]

On 10/31/2018 at 3:31 PM, Sturgeon said:

 

Still living the shill lifestyle I see.

https://about.me/nicholasdrummond
 

Quote

Hi, I'm Nicholas. I'm a strategic consultant based in London, UK.

I started my professional career in the British Army and served as an infantry platoon commander the Welsh Guards during the 1980s

After seven years of military service, I became an Advertising Copywriter. Over a 10-year period in the 1990s, I worked for Publicis, M&C Saatchi and Ogilvy & Mather.

My love of Marketing, Strategy and Communication led me to the world of consulting. I worked at McKinsey & Company, London before establishing my first company, Fusion Marketing Ltd. I set-up my second and present company, Aura Consulting Ltd., in 2013 and have now been a strategic consultant for almost 20 years.

I am passionate about all things military and specialise in helping Defence Industry clients across their most important strategic priorities. I'm a Defence commentator with an interest in Government policy and related aspects of defence politics and the geopolitical landscape. You can follow me via Twitter and my blog UK Land Power.

Quite likely his service end just before the L85 put into service or just as it was being put into service...
(Which could explain his bias in favor of thurdy cal and/or his bias against SCHV?)

[CDNcommissar]

On 10/31/2018 at 12:12 PM, Ramlaen said:

It would be helpful if BAE Systems at Radway Green produced a 6.5 mm projectile along the same lines as those it developed for its excellent 5.56 mm and 7.62 mm EP enhanced performance rounds. This is because, so far, no European army has adopted US EPR projectiles due to concerns about whether they are compliant with the Laws of Armed Conflict. EPR bullets have an exposed steel tip for improved penetration and jacket is designed to rupture so that the bullet will fragment for improved lethality. Projectiles that fragment or deform are prohibited.

 

I am by no means an expert but I am pretty sure SS109 fragments.

 

 

I doubt the USA, Russia, China etc. give a flying fuck about their "concerns". 
Does their lack of adoption even matter? ^^

[Sturgeon]

27 minutes ago, CDNcommissar said:

https://about.me/nicholasdrummond
 

Quite likely his service end just before the L85 put into service or just as it was being put into service...
(Which could explain his bias in favor of thurdy cal and/or his bias against SCHV?)

 

Correct, he served with the L1A1. I've had extensive conversations with him via email and he is pretty insistent on a projectile weight of at least 90 grains/6 grams.