Tankograd T-62: Khruschev's bastard

[Must Be Spoon Fed]

That is great post! I wish that such information would be more widely available as I'm likely never will be able to make sense of Russian sources myself. I see that costs of both tanks were about equal and maintenance costs of T-64 were ought to drop dramatically as its critical flaws were worked out. I also looked into both tanks and they seem to be very similar in performance and capabilities. It seems that T-64 price had spiked with B version due to being upgraded with expensive FCS while T-72A maintaining its ballistic computer. Maybe you would remember some sources saying anything about that? 

 

 

[skylancer-3441]

358.000 for T-64B (and 283.730 for T-72B) in 1987 according to the same post by Gurkhan.

 

 

Also, there was another set of prices, posted online by Vasiliy Chobitok (aka armor.kiev.ua), from information provided in 1999 by Ukrainian GBTU (Main armor and tank directorate) to Chief of Staff of the Ukrainian army,

on prices of AFVs in US dollars - apparently they were using prices from no later than 1987, and converted them into dollars at RUB/USD exchange rate of 1.56:1

AFAIK during mid-late 00s it was the main source on Soviet AFV prices in Russian community, until other publications become available - though unfortunately some of those numbers are still hard to check by looking elsewhere.

 

converted back to roubles:

BMP-1 69.409

BMP-2 146.565 

T-55 62.910

T-55AM 92.742

T-62 52.930

T-62M 98.414

T-64 148.000

T-64A 159.636

T-64B 328.678

T-64B1 270.471

T-64BV 343.608

T-72A 216.184

T-72B 270.000

T-80 600.000

T-80B 530.000

T-80UD 733.000

 

From another post by Chobitok - same numbers, accompanied by numbers on BMDs and BTRs

converted back to roubles:

BMD-1 88.300

BMD-2 112.000

BTR-70 29.390

BTR-80 69.300

BTR-152 "around 10.000"

 

btw, Kostenko in his book compared T-72B vs T-80U (so, late 80s prices) - 280.000 incl. 15.000 for diesel engine, and 824.000 including 104.000 for gas turbine

 

 

 

[heretic88]

13 hours ago, Jim Warford said:

The info I've seen on the BR-412D says 170mm max penetration (at zero degrees) at 1500m...and 185mm max penetration at 1000m. So that one's a close call...

Yes indeed. But it turned out from the yugo tests that armor is relatively soft, and has lower protection. Thats why I mentioned that BR-412D can defeat ~180mm LOS armor up to 1500m. Yes, yugo test was about an M-47, but -correct me if Im wrong- such relatively soft steel was used up to the second half of 1970s. 

[Must Be Spoon Fed]

Those are fascinating statistics. I was always very interested in the cost of vehicles, sadly a theme which is often least covered and researched. In my mind, even T-54 can be a deadly opponent in modern battlefield if used appropriately like ambushing IFV and hiding in the terrain or repurposed as a cutting edge APC or a mobile/imobile pillbox. There aren't enough nations interested in buying second hand old equipment en mass and repurposing them for a new life for a fraction of a cost that new equipment with all its shiny gadgets cost.