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105mm APFSDS from smoothbore vs T-62
 
 
 
https://fromtheswedisharchives.wordpress.com/2019/01/03/rheinmetall-105-cm-smoothbore-performance/
 
for comparsion test of same APFSDS in Sweden

yes there is several values, but it is better to give the real quotes and sources references , and not to draw it yourself so that it wouldn't raise questions and suspicions
 
and IIRC there no reports with 200mm for turret side from CE
 
i only seen this images on otvaga

@Molota_477

what is the poin to make fake/collages from real report which doens't contain such schemes ? real report contain only turret scheme and text description for CR1 turret, armour scheme was excluded from this report, only text and scheme of whole turret without protection levels, and report doesn't contain anything about "200mm at normal" and "480mm" IIRC
 

 
report also doens't give numbers for CR2 turret, only for CR1 MLI(yes it says that turret level more or less similar) but not for Cr2
 
 

without testing on ranges from 1.5km and beyond  i can't say for sure + L52 APDS i think can kill it from 2km +
 
but one is for sure good quality of steel(doesn't cracked having so much damage from all type of ammo used against) and weld and protection even vs 105mm APFSDS could be achived without having much trouble. 
 
 from german testing of T-55 in 1970(no any details, just pieces of information, hull was penetrated from 500 meters with DM13 while turret was tested from 500, 200 and 100 meters and have only one or two penetations(no data were it hited etc, only that firing was done at frontal part without +-30 flank angle, straight in the frontal part) and report mentions that in real combat conditions (Israel) the tank really was quite resistant to hits, but without details

without testing on ranges from 1.5km and beyond  i can't say for sure + L52 APDS i think can kill it from 2km +
 
but one is for sure good quality of steel(doesn't cracked having so much damage from all type of ammo used against) and weld and protection even vs 105mm APFSDS could be achived without having much trouble. 
 
 from german testing of T-55 in 1970(no any details, just pieces of information, hull was penetrated from 500 meters with DM13 while turret was tested from 500, 200 and 100 meters and have only one or two penetations(no data were it hited etc, only that firing was done at frontal part without +-30 flank angle, straight in the frontal part) and report mentions that in real combat conditions (Israel) the tank really was quite resistant to hits, but without details

105mm DM13(L28) APDS vs T-62 from 200 meters(german protection thickness TL graph made for 800 meters).

it's possible, when i get to report next time i will upload smoothbore APFSDS vs this addon and T-62 + Milan vs another type(similar but not the same) addon on T-62

105mm DM13(L28) APDS vs T-62 from 200 meters(german protection thickness TL graph made for 800 meters).

hmm, I see,
I will take care on such thing later.
200mm is based on the table of Chieftain Burlington report, but not accurate value so I just estimated it.
For now I only post them on Chinese speaking platform, and have noted about it.

1975 firing trials of T-62 in Germany with 20,40,90, 105 L7 APDS and 105 smoothbore APFSDS, need some time to read whole report

1975 firing trials of T-62 in Germany with 20,40,90, 105 L7 APDS and 105 smoothbore APFSDS, need some time to read whole report

1975 firing trials of T-62 in Germany with 20,40,90, 105 L7 APDS and 105 smoothbore APFSDS, need some time to read whole report

it's funny to read about all this "weights!11"
 
for example T-72A hull front (UFP + LFP) 3+ tons IIRC
oplot-m hull front(UFP + LFP+"ERA cassette(without ERA blocks inside)" which is part of UFP) 4966kg
 
CR1 UFP special armour - 1.4 tons (1427 kg) (hull itself with special armour, fuel,ammo,engine etc isnide - 41700kg)
 
 

it's funny to read about all this "weights!11"
 
for example T-72A hull front (UFP + LFP) 3+ tons IIRC
oplot-m hull front(UFP + LFP+"ERA cassette(without ERA blocks inside)" which is part of UFP) 4966kg
 
CR1 UFP special armour - 1.4 tons (1427 kg) (hull itself with special armour, fuel,ammo,engine etc isnide - 41700kg)
 
 

gettyimages now have much higher res previews 
 

gettyimages now have much higher res previews 
 

it's funny to read about all this "weights!11"
 
for example T-72A hull front (UFP + LFP) 3+ tons IIRC
oplot-m hull front(UFP + LFP+"ERA cassette(without ERA blocks inside)" which is part of UFP) 4966kg
 
CR1 UFP special armour - 1.4 tons (1427 kg) (hull itself with special armour, fuel,ammo,engine etc isnide - 41700kg)
 
 

gettyimages now have much higher res previews 
 

gettyimages now have much higher res previews 
 

gettyimages now have much higher res previews 
 

These images come from the book "Char Leclerc: De la guerre froide aux conflits de demain" by Marc Chassillan.

btw maybe someone remember, from which magazine this pictures ?

100mm/70deg - 3057meters
15mm-100mm/70deg - 1250-1290 meters
 
so "good against spaced armour" not good enough, but maybe better than nothing...