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  1. Tank You
    EnsignExpendable got a reaction from That_Baka in StuG III Thread (and also other German vehicles I guess)   
    Panzerkampfwagen Panther Ausf. QQ
     

  2. Tank You
    EnsignExpendable got a reaction from Blackhorse_Six in StuG III Thread (and also other German vehicles I guess)   
    Panzerkampfwagen Panther Ausf. QQ
     

  3. Tank You
    EnsignExpendable got a reaction from RobotMinisterofTrueKorea in The Small Arms Thread, Part 8: 2018; ICSR to be replaced by US Army with interim 15mm Revolver Cannon.   
    Drop what you're doing and look at the most adorable Luger in the world.
     

  4. Tank You
    EnsignExpendable got a reaction from LoooSeR in The Soviet Tank Thread: Transversely Mounted 1000hp Engines   
    How a T-64 is made.
     

  5. Tank You
    EnsignExpendable got a reaction from Nguyen in The Soviet Tank Thread: Transversely Mounted 1000hp Engines   
    Top secret data on the project retrieved by the CIA.
     
  6. Tank You
    EnsignExpendable got a reaction from Sturgeon in The Soviet Tank Thread: Transversely Mounted 1000hp Engines   
    Is that a bipedal AA robot in the end of the row there?
  7. Tank You
    EnsignExpendable got a reaction from That_Baka in The Soviet Tank Thread: Transversely Mounted 1000hp Engines   
    Top secret data on the project retrieved by the CIA.
     
  8. Tank You
    EnsignExpendable got a reaction from Sturgeon in WoT v WT effort-thread   
    Gaijin continues to demonstrate economic wisdom by tying the price of their gold to the ruble instead of the dollar.
     
  9. Tank You
    EnsignExpendable got a reaction from Xlucine in The Soviet Tank Thread: Transversely Mounted 1000hp Engines   
    Top secret data on the project retrieved by the CIA.
     
  10. Tank You
    EnsignExpendable got a reaction from T___A in WoT v WT effort-thread   
    The biggest killer of WT for me is the amount of time I need to dedicate to a battle. In WoT, I can crank out a fight every 5-7 minutes, even if I die and have to use another tank. In WT, it takes what, half an hour to find and play a Realistic battle? Pass.
  11. Tank You
    EnsignExpendable got a reaction from Sturgeon in WoT v WT effort-thread   
    The biggest killer of WT for me is the amount of time I need to dedicate to a battle. In WoT, I can crank out a fight every 5-7 minutes, even if I die and have to use another tank. In WT, it takes what, half an hour to find and play a Realistic battle? Pass.
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    EnsignExpendable reacted to Sturgeon in The Week In Review   
    Our first week here at SH is done. Honestly, this has been a much stronger start than I expected, and I thank everyone who's posted for helping.

    There's a lot of good content here already; I can hardly think of a thread that doesn't contribute something to the making of SH into the research center I had in mind when I started it.

    So thanks to everyone, and let's keep the momentum up. For now, if you have a question, ask it on the forum! Have a friend that you think has the archive savvy, inquisitive nature, and ritual-sacrifice-obsidian-dagger-blade-sharp wit that would make them a good fit for SH? Invite them! (For now, I ask members to invite only one person a piece; myself and collimatrix are currently working to expand the membership of SH by adding more people we think would be assets to the forum.)

    Carry on, gentlemen!
  13. Tank You
    EnsignExpendable got a reaction from Karamazov in Documents for the Documents God   
    Primary sources are a harsher mistress than heroin. Post your best docs, videos, and photos here! Make sure that your documents have good citations, photos have confirmed locations and dates (and are actually significant, we don't need millions of pictures of T-26 #550424). Use reliable hosting! Youtube, Picasa, or a government agency's hosting where you got them from in the first place. I will periodically update the OP with everything posted in the thread. 
     
    Documents not strictly falling into "Allied" or "Axis" categories, or subcategories, will be sorted by country of origin.
     
    Allied
     
    British Empire and Commonwealth (excluding Canada)
    T-90S manual (Russian) T-72B Manual (Russian)
    T-64 1984 Manual (Russian)
    T-34 EARLY TANK SERVICE MANUAL
    1976 US report on capabilities of and countermeasures to the ZSU-23-4 Shilka
     
    United States and Canada
    Ballistic Tests of Armor Materials (American penetration standards) MECHANISM OF ARMOR PENETRATION (Investigation of projectile shatter) THE PERFORMANCE OF SUB-CALIBER PROJECTILES COMPARED WITH THAT OF CONVENTIONAL TYPES Fragment Penetration Tests of Armor Principles of Armor Protection (Decapping plates research) Grooved Armor Plate Photographic Study of Impact of Ball and Armor Piercing Ammunition on Armor Plate Light Armor Plate Development Test of Laminated Thin Armor Plate Metallurgical Examination of Samples Representing Ninety-Six Two Inch Thick Ballistic Test Plates Welding of Armor: Summary of Ballistic Shock Test Results on 1-1/2 Inch Homogeneous Armor 'H' Plates Welded with Austenitic Electrodes and Tested at Aberdeen Proving Ground Armor. Metallurgical Examination of Cast Turret Number 757 for M4 Tank, Manufactured by Union Steel Castings Co., Ballistically Tested at Subzero Temperatures at Camp Shilo Historical Review of the Correlation of Ballistic and Metallurgical Characteristics of Domestic Armor at Watertown Arsenal Metallurgical Examination of 2 Inch, 2-1/2 Inch, and 3 Inch Rolled Homogeneous Armor Employed in the Ballistic Evaluation of Armor against 57 mm and 90 mm Armor-Piercing Projectiles Resistance of Various Steels to Perforation by Fragment Simulating Projectiles Metallurgical Examination of Sections from the Cast Armor Turret made by Continental Foundry and Machine Company and two Trunnion Pins from a Heavy Tank M6A2E1 Comparative Effectiveness of Armor-Defeating Ammunition (Normalization and penetration) Armor Plate Ballistic Testing Metallurgical Examination of Section from 6 in. Experimental M4A3E2 Assault Turret Manufactured by Union Steel Castings Division of Blaw-Knox Company Metallurgical Evaluation of a Method of Anti-Personnel Defense for the Medium Tank M4A1 Metallurgical Examination of Twelve 2 1/2 Inch Thick Rolled Homogeneous and Sixteen 2 1/2 Inch Thick Face Hardened Armor Plates Manufactured by Carnegie-Illinois Steel Penetration of Homogeneous Armor by 3-inch Flat-Nosed Projectiles Comparative Effectiveness of Armor-Defeating Ammunition THE EFFECT OF SYSTEM DESIGN CHARACTERISTICS ON FIRST ROUND HITTING PROBABILITY OF TANK FIRED PROJECTILES Handbook of Ballistic and Engineering Data for Ammunition. Volume 1. 20-1-95 to 75-1-310 Included Test of 105mm Shot, T182 Development of 90mm Gun Tank, T69 SOLID STEEL AP PROJECTILES. CONVENTIONAL, TRUNCATED AND TIPPED TRUNCATED OGIVAL TYPES
    History of the Subcommittee on Welding of Armor Ferrous Metallurgical Advisory Board Ordnance Department U.S. Army
    Welding of Armor. Summary of Ballistic Shock Test Results on 1/2, 3/8, and 1/4 Inch Thick Homogeneous Armor 'H' Plates Welded with Austenitic Electrodes and Tested at Aberdeen Proving Ground during the Period from 1 October 1942 through 31 March 1943
    REVISED SUMMARY OF ORO PROJECTS, SPECIAL STUDIES AND FIELD OPERATIONS TO MAY 31, 1952. VOLUME 1
    CONTROL OF GUN FUMES IN M-4 SERIES MEDIUM TANKS
    ADEQUATE HEAD ROOM IN TANKS
    APPRAISAL OF KIND AND DEGREE OF PHYSICAL EFFORT REQUIRED OF TANK CREWS IN RELATION TO FATIGUE
    Heavy Tank T26E1 Metallurgical Examination of Components which Failed Under Ballistic Tests
    Comparison Test of Tank, Combat, Full-Tracked, 105-mm Gun, M60A1
    STUDY OF ERRORS IN RANGE ESTIMATION WITH THE UNAIDED EYE
    Evaluation of American telescopic tank sights
    DETERMINATION OF THE AMOUNT OF HEAT TRANSMITTED TO THE FIGHTING COMPARTMENT OF TANKS UNDER FIELD CONDITIONS
    CONTROL OF GUN FUMES IN M4 SERIES MEDIUM TANKS BY POSITIVE-PRESSURE VENTILATION
    REPORT ON GUN FUME HAZARD FROM 37MM GUN IN M5 LIGHT TANK
    DETERMINATION OF BASIC VENTILATION CHARACTERISTICS OF TANKS OF THE M4 SERIES. DETERMINATION OF BASIC VENTILATION CHARACTERISTICS OF TANKS OF THE M5 SERIES
    PLACEMENT AND MOUNTING OF SIGHTS IN TANKS
    DISCUSSION OF VENTILATION REQUIREMENTS OF ARMORED VEHICLES
    Work on Sabot-Projectiles and Supplements, 1942-1944
    M4A3 Manual
    M103 armour requirements
    US Armor in Korea, pt. 1
    US Armor in Korea, pt. 2
    XM1 Engine Troubles
    Analysis of the effectiveness of American tank destroyers
    US testing of MTU MT883 Diesel engine for possible use in M1 Abrams
    Development of 105mm HEAT round T-384 (US)
    Human factors and safety assessment of the M1A1 Abrams
    Alternate armament for M551
    Anti-Armor Defense Data Study (A2D2) ‘How to Research’ Guide
    Anti-Armor Defense Data Study (A2D2). Technical Report
    Anti-Armor Defense Data Study (A2D2). Volume 2. U.S. Anti-Tank Defense at Mortain, France (August, 1944)
    Anti-Armor Defense Data Study (A2D2). Volume 3. U.S. Anti-Tank Defense at Dom Butgenbach, Belgium (December, 1944)
    Anti-Armor Defense Data Study (A2D2).  Volume 4. US Anti-Tank Defense at Krinkelt-Rocherath, Belgium (December, 1944)
    Evaluation of Siliceous Cored Armor for the XM60 Tank
    INVESTIGATION OF THE VULNERABILITY TO BALLISTIC ATTACK OF TWO T77 OSCILLATING TURRETS
    War Metallurgy
    Protection provided by steel and aluminum armor against fragments from high-explosive ammunition
    3" M62 AP ammunition trials
    United States Ammunition Data Sheets
    An Overview of Novel Penetrator Technology
    Medium caliber ammunition effect on urban targets
    M36 Crew Training Manual
    90mm M3 Armor Piercing Ammunition
    M4 (105) Training Manual
    M1A1/M1A2 TUSK 1/2 Manual
    Technical Manual for M6 and M6A1 heavy tanks
    Canadian war diaries of the Normandy campaign
    Other
    Swiss Anti-Tank Guns (in German) Penetrator strength effect in long-rod critical ricochet angle AMX-13 prototype trials at Aberdeen 12cm kanon STRV 121/122. Skjuttabeller Renault FT-17 manual  
    Axis
     
    Germany
    Armor: Metallurgical Examination of Armor and Welded Joints from the Side of a German PzKw Vf (Panther) Tank Metallurgical Examination of a 3-1/4 in. Thick Armor Plate from a German PzKw V (Panther) Tank Armor Plate. Metallurgical Examination of German Armor from a Pz. Kw. III Tank Principles of Armor Protection (ballistic testing of scale Pak 40 shells) Interrogation of Herr Stiele von Heydekampf (On Porsche's designs, Tiger/Panther development, T-34's influence on German tank development, and long term trends in German tank building) Pantherfibel.pdf German tank production, availability, and losses in WWII Leitchttraktor manual British analysis of King Tiger turret (Porsche) Vulnerability of Tiger Tanks Tiger Operations Handbook: Tigerfibel  
    Japan
    The Metallurgical Examination of a Japanese Samurai Sword Japanese light armour (part 1) Japanese light armour (part 2) Japanese heavy armour  
    Italy
     
    Other
     
    North Korea country handbook
     
     
    It's sparse for now, but I'll slowly but surely transfer my collection. Contribute all you got!
  14. Tank You
    EnsignExpendable got a reaction from Mohamed A in Documents for the Documents God   
    Primary sources are a harsher mistress than heroin. Post your best docs, videos, and photos here! Make sure that your documents have good citations, photos have confirmed locations and dates (and are actually significant, we don't need millions of pictures of T-26 #550424). Use reliable hosting! Youtube, Picasa, or a government agency's hosting where you got them from in the first place. I will periodically update the OP with everything posted in the thread. 
     
    Documents not strictly falling into "Allied" or "Axis" categories, or subcategories, will be sorted by country of origin.
     
    Allied
     
    British Empire and Commonwealth (excluding Canada)
    T-90S manual (Russian) T-72B Manual (Russian)
    T-64 1984 Manual (Russian)
    T-34 EARLY TANK SERVICE MANUAL
    1976 US report on capabilities of and countermeasures to the ZSU-23-4 Shilka
     
    United States and Canada
    Ballistic Tests of Armor Materials (American penetration standards) MECHANISM OF ARMOR PENETRATION (Investigation of projectile shatter) THE PERFORMANCE OF SUB-CALIBER PROJECTILES COMPARED WITH THAT OF CONVENTIONAL TYPES Fragment Penetration Tests of Armor Principles of Armor Protection (Decapping plates research) Grooved Armor Plate Photographic Study of Impact of Ball and Armor Piercing Ammunition on Armor Plate Light Armor Plate Development Test of Laminated Thin Armor Plate Metallurgical Examination of Samples Representing Ninety-Six Two Inch Thick Ballistic Test Plates Welding of Armor: Summary of Ballistic Shock Test Results on 1-1/2 Inch Homogeneous Armor 'H' Plates Welded with Austenitic Electrodes and Tested at Aberdeen Proving Ground Armor. Metallurgical Examination of Cast Turret Number 757 for M4 Tank, Manufactured by Union Steel Castings Co., Ballistically Tested at Subzero Temperatures at Camp Shilo Historical Review of the Correlation of Ballistic and Metallurgical Characteristics of Domestic Armor at Watertown Arsenal Metallurgical Examination of 2 Inch, 2-1/2 Inch, and 3 Inch Rolled Homogeneous Armor Employed in the Ballistic Evaluation of Armor against 57 mm and 90 mm Armor-Piercing Projectiles Resistance of Various Steels to Perforation by Fragment Simulating Projectiles Metallurgical Examination of Sections from the Cast Armor Turret made by Continental Foundry and Machine Company and two Trunnion Pins from a Heavy Tank M6A2E1 Comparative Effectiveness of Armor-Defeating Ammunition (Normalization and penetration) Armor Plate Ballistic Testing Metallurgical Examination of Section from 6 in. Experimental M4A3E2 Assault Turret Manufactured by Union Steel Castings Division of Blaw-Knox Company Metallurgical Evaluation of a Method of Anti-Personnel Defense for the Medium Tank M4A1 Metallurgical Examination of Twelve 2 1/2 Inch Thick Rolled Homogeneous and Sixteen 2 1/2 Inch Thick Face Hardened Armor Plates Manufactured by Carnegie-Illinois Steel Penetration of Homogeneous Armor by 3-inch Flat-Nosed Projectiles Comparative Effectiveness of Armor-Defeating Ammunition THE EFFECT OF SYSTEM DESIGN CHARACTERISTICS ON FIRST ROUND HITTING PROBABILITY OF TANK FIRED PROJECTILES Handbook of Ballistic and Engineering Data for Ammunition. Volume 1. 20-1-95 to 75-1-310 Included Test of 105mm Shot, T182 Development of 90mm Gun Tank, T69 SOLID STEEL AP PROJECTILES. CONVENTIONAL, TRUNCATED AND TIPPED TRUNCATED OGIVAL TYPES
    History of the Subcommittee on Welding of Armor Ferrous Metallurgical Advisory Board Ordnance Department U.S. Army
    Welding of Armor. Summary of Ballistic Shock Test Results on 1/2, 3/8, and 1/4 Inch Thick Homogeneous Armor 'H' Plates Welded with Austenitic Electrodes and Tested at Aberdeen Proving Ground during the Period from 1 October 1942 through 31 March 1943
    REVISED SUMMARY OF ORO PROJECTS, SPECIAL STUDIES AND FIELD OPERATIONS TO MAY 31, 1952. VOLUME 1
    CONTROL OF GUN FUMES IN M-4 SERIES MEDIUM TANKS
    ADEQUATE HEAD ROOM IN TANKS
    APPRAISAL OF KIND AND DEGREE OF PHYSICAL EFFORT REQUIRED OF TANK CREWS IN RELATION TO FATIGUE
    Heavy Tank T26E1 Metallurgical Examination of Components which Failed Under Ballistic Tests
    Comparison Test of Tank, Combat, Full-Tracked, 105-mm Gun, M60A1
    STUDY OF ERRORS IN RANGE ESTIMATION WITH THE UNAIDED EYE
    Evaluation of American telescopic tank sights
    DETERMINATION OF THE AMOUNT OF HEAT TRANSMITTED TO THE FIGHTING COMPARTMENT OF TANKS UNDER FIELD CONDITIONS
    CONTROL OF GUN FUMES IN M4 SERIES MEDIUM TANKS BY POSITIVE-PRESSURE VENTILATION
    REPORT ON GUN FUME HAZARD FROM 37MM GUN IN M5 LIGHT TANK
    DETERMINATION OF BASIC VENTILATION CHARACTERISTICS OF TANKS OF THE M4 SERIES. DETERMINATION OF BASIC VENTILATION CHARACTERISTICS OF TANKS OF THE M5 SERIES
    PLACEMENT AND MOUNTING OF SIGHTS IN TANKS
    DISCUSSION OF VENTILATION REQUIREMENTS OF ARMORED VEHICLES
    Work on Sabot-Projectiles and Supplements, 1942-1944
    M4A3 Manual
    M103 armour requirements
    US Armor in Korea, pt. 1
    US Armor in Korea, pt. 2
    XM1 Engine Troubles
    Analysis of the effectiveness of American tank destroyers
    US testing of MTU MT883 Diesel engine for possible use in M1 Abrams
    Development of 105mm HEAT round T-384 (US)
    Human factors and safety assessment of the M1A1 Abrams
    Alternate armament for M551
    Anti-Armor Defense Data Study (A2D2) ‘How to Research’ Guide
    Anti-Armor Defense Data Study (A2D2). Technical Report
    Anti-Armor Defense Data Study (A2D2). Volume 2. U.S. Anti-Tank Defense at Mortain, France (August, 1944)
    Anti-Armor Defense Data Study (A2D2). Volume 3. U.S. Anti-Tank Defense at Dom Butgenbach, Belgium (December, 1944)
    Anti-Armor Defense Data Study (A2D2).  Volume 4. US Anti-Tank Defense at Krinkelt-Rocherath, Belgium (December, 1944)
    Evaluation of Siliceous Cored Armor for the XM60 Tank
    INVESTIGATION OF THE VULNERABILITY TO BALLISTIC ATTACK OF TWO T77 OSCILLATING TURRETS
    War Metallurgy
    Protection provided by steel and aluminum armor against fragments from high-explosive ammunition
    3" M62 AP ammunition trials
    United States Ammunition Data Sheets
    An Overview of Novel Penetrator Technology
    Medium caliber ammunition effect on urban targets
    M36 Crew Training Manual
    90mm M3 Armor Piercing Ammunition
    M4 (105) Training Manual
    M1A1/M1A2 TUSK 1/2 Manual
    Technical Manual for M6 and M6A1 heavy tanks
    Canadian war diaries of the Normandy campaign
    Other
    Swiss Anti-Tank Guns (in German) Penetrator strength effect in long-rod critical ricochet angle AMX-13 prototype trials at Aberdeen 12cm kanon STRV 121/122. Skjuttabeller Renault FT-17 manual  
    Axis
     
    Germany
    Armor: Metallurgical Examination of Armor and Welded Joints from the Side of a German PzKw Vf (Panther) Tank Metallurgical Examination of a 3-1/4 in. Thick Armor Plate from a German PzKw V (Panther) Tank Armor Plate. Metallurgical Examination of German Armor from a Pz. Kw. III Tank Principles of Armor Protection (ballistic testing of scale Pak 40 shells) Interrogation of Herr Stiele von Heydekampf (On Porsche's designs, Tiger/Panther development, T-34's influence on German tank development, and long term trends in German tank building) Pantherfibel.pdf German tank production, availability, and losses in WWII Leitchttraktor manual British analysis of King Tiger turret (Porsche) Vulnerability of Tiger Tanks Tiger Operations Handbook: Tigerfibel  
    Japan
    The Metallurgical Examination of a Japanese Samurai Sword Japanese light armour (part 1) Japanese light armour (part 2) Japanese heavy armour  
    Italy
     
    Other
     
    North Korea country handbook
     
     
    It's sparse for now, but I'll slowly but surely transfer my collection. Contribute all you got!
  15. Tank You
    EnsignExpendable got a reaction from LoooSeR in Survey of Allied Tank Casualties in WWII   
    It would be interesting to compare this to the Soviet data I have. Until I put up a proper article, have some scraps of info:
    T-70s: 
    Front hull: 8.5%
    Turret front: 5.6%
    Total front: 14.1%
     
    Hull side: 43.8%
    Turret side: 18.4%
    Total side: 62.2%
     
    Hull rear: 12%
    Turret rear: 0.5%
    Total rear: 12.5%
     
    Hull roof: 2.4%
    Turret roof: 5.0%
    Total roof: 7.4%
     
    About the same side shots, but a lot more rear and top shots. The numbers don't add up to 100% since there are other hits to weird parts of the tank I didn't take into account.
     
    T-34:
    Hull front: 22.65%
    Turret front: 4.86%
    Total front: 27.51%
     
    Hull side: 50.5%
    Turret side: 8.61%
    Total side: 59.11%
     
    Hull rear: 7.52%
    Turret rear: 2.48%
    Total rear: 10%
     
    Hull roof: 0.19%
    Turret roof: 1.11%
    Total roof: 1.3%
     
    Again, less hits in the front, a little more to the rear, about the same side. 
     
    AT artillery calibers (knocked out by)
    88: 35.2%
    75: 46.2%
    50: 12.8%
    37: 5.0%
    Mines: 0.8%
     
    Looks like the Western Front had a hell of a lot more heavy guns.
     
    Orel-Kursk Operation (tank types not given)
    Turret: 38%
    Hull front: 26%
    Hull sides: 34%
    Rear: 2%
     
    Rechitskaya Operation (tank types not given)
    Turret: 32%
    Front: 23%
    Sides: 41%
    Rear: 4%
     
    The amount of rear shots has fallen to about Western European levels, but the weirdness with counting turret shots as a separate category doesn't allow for a full comparison. 
     
    Rogachevskaya operation: 20% of hits are 105 mm HEAT! So much for all the big guns being West.
     
    T-34, summer 1944:
    Turret front: 15%
    Front hull: 16.2%
    Total front: 31.2%
     
    Turret sides: 23%
    Sides: 35.3%
    Total sides: 58.3%
     
    Turret rear: 8%
    Hull rear: 2.5%
    Total rear: 10.5%
     
    Again, really close to American numbers, but the rear of the turret gets hit a hell of a lot. I guess the Soviets are more inclined to rotate their turret actively in combat?
  16. Tank You
    EnsignExpendable got a reaction from Jamby in StuG III Thread (and also other German vehicles I guess)   
    Now, we are all in agreement that the best tank the Germans built was the StuG III.
     

     
    But did you know that the Germans had other vehicles? It's true! You should talk about them here.
     
    Links you should click:
    Our Problem Child: Rossmum on the Panther tank
    Germany's White Elephant, a look at the Tiger tank in theory and practice
    Tiger II: A Royal Pain
    An overview of Germany's armour quality
  17. Tank You
    EnsignExpendable got a reaction from SuperComrade in StuG III Thread (and also other German vehicles I guess)   
    Now, we are all in agreement that the best tank the Germans built was the StuG III.
     

     
    But did you know that the Germans had other vehicles? It's true! You should talk about them here.
     
    Links you should click:
    Our Problem Child: Rossmum on the Panther tank
    Germany's White Elephant, a look at the Tiger tank in theory and practice
    Tiger II: A Royal Pain
    An overview of Germany's armour quality
  18. Tank You
    EnsignExpendable got a reaction from Khand-e in StuG III Thread (and also other German vehicles I guess)   
    Now, we are all in agreement that the best tank the Germans built was the StuG III.
     

     
    But did you know that the Germans had other vehicles? It's true! You should talk about them here.
     
    Links you should click:
    Our Problem Child: Rossmum on the Panther tank
    Germany's White Elephant, a look at the Tiger tank in theory and practice
    Tiger II: A Royal Pain
    An overview of Germany's armour quality
  19. Tank You
    EnsignExpendable got a reaction from T___A in StuG III Thread (and also other German vehicles I guess)   
    Now, we are all in agreement that the best tank the Germans built was the StuG III.
     

     
    But did you know that the Germans had other vehicles? It's true! You should talk about them here.
     
    Links you should click:
    Our Problem Child: Rossmum on the Panther tank
    Germany's White Elephant, a look at the Tiger tank in theory and practice
    Tiger II: A Royal Pain
    An overview of Germany's armour quality
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