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41 minutes ago, LoooSeR said:

Pistol was painted not just to look cool, but because of not very good finish and subpar materials - pistol rusts rather quickly. Cheap materials also makes this pistol unreliable in long run, as parts breaks quicker than on other pistols.

Yeah that's what Karden said, neat idea, good design, poorly executed.

20 hours ago, Kristof said:

There has recently been a lot of "tanks" made by various cartels that can have over 20mm of steel as armor. I find it interesting since that means that they expect to encounter ammunition that has at least some ability to go through armor. Now, the odd thing is that I have found so far only two reports of cartels using armor-piercing ammunition. One happened in 2011 with the seizure of a "Narco Tank" which was equipped with .50 caliber APM2 Black Tip. More recently, 6 people were caught trying to smuggle thousands of .50 caliber API Silver Tip from the US to Mexico. I am surprised that these are the only two cases I could find, since I have looked at numerous videos and images from Mexican media/forums. Does anyone know of any other instances?

Probably enough M2 and M8 running around between the cartels that they'd want to protect against them. 20mm is also about the level of steel armor you want to decisively protect against .30 M2 AP, 7.62 M61 AP, and 7.62x54R B-32 API, and I'm sure there's plenty of both of those types running around too.

3 hours ago, ArmchairSamurai said:

Hello all.

 

New here. I found this forum by reading through a lovely debate on suspension systems and a certain user's tromping; I thought I would stop on through and drop information occasionally as I find it, if anybody finds this stuff interesting. 

 

P.S. unfortunately the original link no longer exists (?) but it still has a presence on the Way Back Machine, which as far as I can tell, is still navigable for the most part. Its a pity its not working in its entirety like when I found it, though given the site is Belarusian, I can put two and two together on why its acting up. Enjoy?

 

https://web.archive.org/web/20220214180137/https://letopis.belta.by/

Welcome! We have threads for most general subjects, so we appreciate it if most links/photos/etc are thrown into those threads rather than fresh ones started (no "thread reanimator" rule). However, I don't think we have a thread for this subject yet, so thanks!

3 hours ago, LoooSeR said:

@Sturgeondoes that perfomance look plausable to you?

Yeah regular car sheet metal is toast against any centerfire caliber with a full metal jacket.

Sometimes you get stoppages with really slow soft lead bullets, like you see with .32 S&W, but in TYOOL 2022 those are rare as hen's teeth.

Actually come to think of it, I think that thread was the one that began the convention of all our aviation threads having a sarcastic title (e.g., Bash the F-35 is all a bunch of praise for the Panther).

Just for the record we do already have an A-10 thread: 
 

Thanks to this Secret Projects thread, we have some images of the transitional forms of the Northrop fighter lineage which help connect the T-38/F-5/etc to the Cobra/Hornet. As is fairly well known, the this transition begins with the Northrop P-300, which is still firmly grounded in the Freedom Fighter. This is an important member of the family, which I left out of my original posts:

This is a configurable study model of the late version (A43) of the P-300 (seemingly evidenced by the very difficult to read nameplate). Clearly visible is its resemblance to a high-wing F-5, but you can also see in the belly shot a very clear view of the flared out body-intake configuration that would follow the design all the way through the P-530 and YF-17, which was much more subdued in the F-18:

In fact, the early P-530 looks much more like the P-300A43 than it does the later P530s:

Note that by May '67 they haven't even ditched the single tail yet (that wouldn't happen until the summer of 1968)!

By the end of the P-530 the aircraft gets looking very much like a proto-Cobra:

You can see that in this very "Starfightery" series of designs, one of the big distinguishing features visually is caused by the location of the gun. Not in front of the pilot like in the Cobra and Hornet, but below the pilot:

Speaking of guns, evidently the armament of two M39s in lieu of an M61 was being considered as late as 1973/4:

The photos in that SP thread really clearly illustrate the evolution from the F-5 to the Hornet very well, and there's even a handy visual outline:



But what's this? It mentions a single-engined P-610? Indeed:

18 hours ago, Collimatrix said:

Perhaps computer stress modelling and improved manufacturing technology have changed that.

I can guarantee this is a factor.

On 5/12/2022 at 6:17 AM, W. Murderface said:

Regarding the A10's übergewehr being useless against anything more heavily armoured than the caveman-era T62, I would like to point you at the following articles, from 100% correct and unbiased sources:

 

https://www.businessinsider.com/air-force-tests-a-10-cannon-against-modern-tank-armor-2022-5?international=true&r=US&IR=T

 

https://www.53rdwing.af.mil/News/Article/3022734/a-10c-munitions-render-explosive-reactive-armored-tanks-inoperative-during-test/

 

Thank you for your attention. Dont believe the lies. Hog has been willed into immortality by the congress itself. 

As they continue to fall apart, yes:

On 12/29/2021 at 10:24 AM, Domus Acipenseris said:

To be fair, what is the figure of merit here?  I propose damagedone/damage received.  Should logistical requirements of the aircraft factor in as well?

Well the A-10 costs about 50% more to fly than the F-16 so...

21 hours ago, Lord_James said:

I apologize if you’ve already answered this question, but what do you think is the future of battle rifles and other “assault weapons”? Would they just keep trying to make the weapons lighter or will we see more recoil mitigation tricks like the vector and AN-94? 

Well, I think the Army is about to relearn some very silly lessons with NGSW, but one thing I doubt they'll regret is the M157 NGSW-FC.

17 hours ago, Kal said:

IMHO, due to proportions, the sig sauer spear will not succeed as a replacement for the m4. A 13" barrel in a 34" rifle.  with a chamber pressure rated to 80,000 pounds.  what could go wrong???

The pressure isn't a problem in theory, but I have serious reservations about their case head design. I fear we'll start seeing case head separations once it enters service and ammunition production ramps up.

I also don't think the caliber is appropriate for an infantry rifle, and they're going to relearn some old lessons quickly.

 

On 4/22/2022 at 3:40 AM, Miroslav said:

I must say that the rifle that eventually became the AK-12 has the same vibes to it. Lots of picatinny but not sturdy enough to hold zero for magnified optics or IR lasers for night fighting. Can't see the improvement over the nicer Ak74-variants. Then again, not every new batch of standard issue rifles has to be better than the last batch. The soldiers that the Russian MoD want to equip with magnified optics or night fighting equipment can probably get their hands on other kits to have the same capability.

The improvements are there but they're pretty subtle. Stuff like changing to a sensible buttstock shape, the pistol grip finally covering the rear of the receiver, the "owie pin" going away, etc.

13 hours ago, Miroslav said:

 

I'd never trust an improved top cover for a precision optic. Red dots and magnifiers and 1-4x scopes is one thing, but putting a 1 kg high magnification optic on the top cover and expecting it to be reliably precise over the course of months of field use... no. Of course, I don't have any experience with SVDM, but the picatinny top cover looks like an idea somebody had for something cool to display in the booths at military industrial trade fairs. Very good for a sales pitch in a room full of suits and neckties.

The receiver is sturdy and is connected to the barrel only through sturdy components. The side rail works well with removable scope mounts.

Yeah that solution seems like a bandaid, and I wonder if the AM series is poised to take over once that becomes obvious.

16 hours ago, Clan_Ghost_Bear said:

I don't know what AH.com is, nor am I sure of your thoughts on the M14. Just disappointed that True Velocity didn't win, is all.

Okay guess not then, thinking of someone else.

True Velocity definitely should have won.

6 hours ago, Clan_Ghost_Bear said:

https://taskandpurpose.com/military-tech/army-selects-sig-sauer-next-generation-squad-weapon/

Just curious, aren't you the guy who got me banned from AH.com because I disagreed with you about the M14?

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4 hours ago, W. Murderface said:

Forgot about not angering the god king and the mod bings again. My bad.

Good, now let's get back to shitposting about Ukraine.

7 hours ago, W. Murderface said:

Hope you'll be decent and reasonable, instead of drunk with power and invulderability

You have seven posts, go away.

14 hours ago, Miroslav said:

To quote myself:

 

 

Your impoliteness is uncalled for and your accusation of laziness would be better aimed at yourself.

In a discussion on an ongoing war, in which parties to the discussion are citizens of the warring nations, it really would fit you as a moderator to have an ounce more respect and grace than Eric Cartman.

Oh? What is your plan here? Will you report me to the moderators?

I'm not even going to post photos of Ukrainian guys larping as Nazis, if you're too lazy to find that shit yourself, I don't really care to talk to you anyway.

8 hours ago, Miroslav said:

I am very confused by that narrative.

Guessing you don't know what a "black sun" is.

2 hours ago, harrier4484 said:

COD guns haunt my nightmares that franchise has become an Abomination.

Not about video games.

19 hours ago, rocketeer said:

 

*shrug*

 

Your claim in and of itself is invariably¹ based in a gigantic pile of utter horsesh*t, produced by/for Ukrainian side. So yeah, it really seems like something to be taken at face value.

 

I find the claims of Russian MoD plausible, with aforementioned caveats, because a) they match my expectations, and b) i don't any reasons not to trust myself.

 

It's my expectations, after all.

 

¹ — invariably, bc there's next-to-no alternate sources of information.

I don't understand, we both find the Russian claims plausible so why are you pointing fingers at me?

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