SuperComrade Posted August 23, 2015 Report Share Posted August 23, 2015 About to read a (stolen) copy ofLet the games begin! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walter_Sobchak Posted August 23, 2015 Report Share Posted August 23, 2015 My copy should be arriving in the mail next week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperComrade Posted August 23, 2015 Author Report Share Posted August 23, 2015 Rekt In contrast, personnel casualties provide a better suggestion of the magnitude of the calamity suffered by German units in the opening phases of Operation Cobra. As can be seen in the charts below, the 2nd Armored Division suffered 914 casualties while inflicting over 7,370 German casualties, an eight-fold disparity. T___A and EnsignExpendable 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperComrade Posted August 23, 2015 Author Report Share Posted August 23, 2015 My copy should be arriving in the mail next week. I'll get a copy if and when they ship it to bookstores in Quebec Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperComrade Posted August 23, 2015 Author Report Share Posted August 23, 2015 Hmmm, he says the 75 mm Gun M3 cannot defeat the PzKpfw IV superstructure at normal ranges Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tied Posted August 23, 2015 Report Share Posted August 23, 2015 Rekt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tied Posted August 23, 2015 Report Share Posted August 23, 2015 Hmmm, he says the 75 mm Gun M3 cannot defeat the PzKpfw IV superstructure at normal ranges Depending on the model it might have trouble with the additional armor on the front But the front upper slant that goes up towards the turrent ring and the front turrent are both soft as butter for mid ww2 armor standards and both are gonna fuck over the tank badly if penetrated Like the front turrent armor of the Panzer 4 is a grand 50mm thick put a shot in there and the driver and machine gunner would lucky to walk out of that alive No TC, Loader, or Gunner means you are just stuck with a very frightened MG-34 bunker Jeeps_Guns_Tanks 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnsignExpendable Posted August 23, 2015 Report Share Posted August 23, 2015 Hmmm, he says the 75 mm Gun M3 cannot defeat the PzKpfw IV superstructure at normal ranges The 80 mm front? Nope. Well, in theory, in practice the gun could punch through the Tiger's 82 mm side, so... Rekt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperComrade Posted August 23, 2015 Author Report Share Posted August 23, 2015 Hmmm, the gun apparently performed better against face hardened plate, which is what the PzKpfw IV used, no? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Collimatrix Posted September 10, 2015 Report Share Posted September 10, 2015 What else have you learned?Did the British ever do motion studies on a Pz IV turret? I wonder if it had the same general layout, and shortcomings as the big cat turrets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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