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My job, from my little archive -a few armour LOS thickenss ;-)

Very nice video made from soilders for polish general Mieczysław Różański - present General Commander of the armed forces. He will be retired soon, and this is "godbay" movie: Title: "Follow me!" (Za mną!)

Good question.

Leopard-2AV NERA amrour model, made by otvaga forum user:

My article about APS Trophy/ASPRO-A/Windbreaker etc http://dziennikzbrojny.pl/artykuly/art,5,23,8216,wojska-ladowe,wyposazenie,wiatrowka-dla-merkawy-mk-4-czyli-izraelski-aktywny-system-ochrony-aspro-a-trophy (In polish) and possible to download from oficial Polish Army magazine: https://zbrojni.blob.core.windows.net/pzdata2/TinyMceFiles/PRZEGLAD_03_2015_CC.pdf page 90 in pdf (more about APS but Trophy is shortly present there - in polish too. ,maybe will be usefull for sombody work/thesis, etc )

What is funny - most was spall form UWZ- CHzTM war, but now for ukriana War thers is new strong OPSPEC there, and there is bann form ukrianian side for any new infos about Molot/Nota/Biala. Hopfully - somebody from Belarus or Russia is trolling ChzTM guuys in ugly way and leak some photos/infos ))

Just wait :-) Somebody from former OKB is leaking this stuff about Molot to net so it's metter of time Maybe even short part of time.

Propably yes ))

Marvelous Paralay job: Ob.477A hull interior (top viev) , but without autoloaders and engine.

Upper - erly Ob.477Bokser Bottom - late Ob.477A Bokser-Molot (this whit 1000mm main hull armour + ERA space)

No, it's part of germant patent of the "special armour" for Leopard-2AV hull armour. It's slighty diffrent then Burlington armour themself, but it's NERA indeed. If You look close you will see that layout is exatly teh same as in polish smiple NERA from previous pages: 4

1) Decision about change gun+amunition system was strange in end of the 80s. Decision about new gun for new tanks where taken 9.10.1984 by chief of the GRAU - general Litwinienko in circa 3minutes (lol) becouse He thought that bigger gun is alway better so he choose the largest caliber from some proposition: 152,4mm. BUT in the end of the 1980 was made another decision about longer gun and longer APFSDS. In some way it was good decision. But it was taken not only couse rational analys but there was "hidden factor" " little dirty fuc!n war between LKZ, ChZTM and UWZ.Charkiv's was close to bulid it own "new generation tank" and other big producion centers (whit suporting them politics) had tryied to forced something to stop, delay, or slow down Charkiv way to new tank. So new system gun+amunition was greate opurtinity to do that. It was even funny -> 1984-1986 Buntar is redy, but new gun 152 then 130mm is ndded -program abondend, 1986-1989 - 3x Molot Ob.477A is redy, new gun again needed, so AGAIN charkiv must rebuild whole project...etc And new longer APFSDS was impossible to put in autoloader from Ob.477A (this posted on previous pages). New solution was needed... 2) New gun was build in better technology whit bigger preassure, and whit longer APFSDS amunition. Old gun was enought or even more then enought. New gun was overkill. But explanation was circa about this spy scandal when someone from ChzTM sell tons of plans to USA. So it was second factor to rebuild project - something on base: :they know that we have 152mm whit max penetration value xxxx so we change this gun and build system whit 1.3 better penetration" Tha same was about armour: between Ob.477A and Ob.477A1/A2 was improved from circa 1000 to 1300mm -so almoust in 1.3. 3) Well - FCS was whit panoramic sight and independent thermal camera. for TK. What was interesting - system palned for gunner was preatty close to Ka-50 system whit never ended auto detection system and autotracer. The most important (and never finished) was to "put" tank into netware system. It's almoust unkown on west but Soviet have their own and net-warfare system build almoust 20yers before US and NATO ones! It was Battle Menage System "Manewr" "maneuver in englis" -it was introduced in 1981 and fully operational in 1983. And design for: regiment, brigade and division whit fully automatic transmision and exchange of information between "levels". The same system was planed for Ob.477A but on platoon and regiment level - so scaled down and small version whit new base. And this system was never ended. BTW: Part of "Maneuver" system was export (in downgraded version) to Chechoslovakia, DDR, Poland, and Bulgary and Hungary. Czech, Hungary and DDR system was destroyed in 1989 just before SU colapse, Poland had part of this system operational up to milenium, and Bulgary...sold them to USA in end of the 1990. What was funny - system bild between 1968 and 1981 was tested in USA in circa 1997-1999 and it was dicoverd that it's very very good and in scenario blue vs red the red whit "Maneuver" system alway win battle... Just funy that in country without toilet paper and whit Lada car and Rubin TV (yes, I rememebr those days and wainting in shop queue 3h to buy ONE toilet paper and ONE almoust rotten lemon -fucken comunist system) build greate BMS whit netwarfare abilities -iofcourse on 80's technical level. Sorry for OT. 4) There was planned 3 diffrent APS hard kill for new generation tanks: Arena, Drozd-2, and Dożdź - so "Rain" so...today ukrainian Zaslon. And it's not clear if there was planed to choose ONE system or as ussaly in comunism - all 3 was planned to be producet in the same time. IMHO this option. As I know LKZ planned Drozd-2, and Charkiv - "Rain/Zaslon", but its not sure information.

Well - I doubt, becouse on Ob.477A1 is based Nota, and it's still OPSPEC... couse Biala project More or less it's the same tank whit diffrent FCS and armour

Not exactly to be honest - mock up was only part of the FCS. Hull, autoloader and turret system was fully operable - "only" FCS was mocked up. But ist more TTB whit measuring apparatus . This tank and other one was used to forced Ob.477A as "soviet future tank" on some GRAU inspectors. Well it was a partial suces couse new requirements for new gun and other autoloader system. What need almoust new tank :-) So Ob.477A1 Molot rise. Of course there was some spy scandal - plans and photos of the Ob.477 Boxer-Molot was sell to USA and made there huge panic in end of the 80s. And this spy scandal have it's own influence on decision to rebuild whole project in to new tank based on Ob,.477A.

Yes, this is shown for public, there are other - still secret. But someone form Rusia is trolling ChZTM guys in ugly way so Im more then sure that more, and better photos will leake soon. Notis that this prototype have not finished or even funkcional FCS - it was the second big problem of Boxer-Molot. First one was autoloader.

Greate video of polish and NATO trening "Anaconda-16" - typical spring polish army trening. Worth to see ) Especialy big explosion during countr mine cleaning.

from TankNet: From reports on the net, the Poles came in first in offensive shooting with 285/350, second in defensive shooting with 277.5/350 behind the Germans. The Italians were said to have sucked on the first day because the platoon had previously been on anti-terror duties and not done much tanking for two years, allegedly exhibiting a strange way to zero their guns, but delivered the best performance of all in a stage on the second day. The Americans also seem to need to catch up a little on basic conventional fieldcraft like vehicle camoflage after years of fighting armed goatherders. The German platoon was the only one to be led by an NCO (E-8). Lots of interested observers from Austria, Canada, Portugal, Sweden etc., and the next event may have more participants.

Ob.477 Bokser-Molot

Yes, it was planned to give GLATGM for next generation tanks. But no details about missailes and no even codenames. Just info about work on cal.152mm GLATGM.

====================== Strong Europe Tank Challenge - polish platoon was third in generall calyfication: 1st place - Germans 2th place - Dutch 3th place - Poles To be hones - polish platoon was the best in defensive shooting and second in offensive shooting but Poles lose some points in other skills - countr IED reaction, medavec and other, so in summery they have third place. But whole Strong Europe Tank Challenge looks very greate - interesting and difficult competition. https://www.army.mil/article/167842/?platform=hootsuite

Very interesting video form serial "Our Army": Worth to see is part from 12:01 on video. We can see there polish made 120mm self-propelled motar. Very interesting part about autoloader, BMS, how it works, etc. 12:01: http://vod.tvp.pl/25030888/14052016 all about this weapons system: Few country are interesting to buy this motar system from Poland and put on local chassis: - Ukraina (very advanced agreement) on BTR4 and other chassis - Czech Republic (on Pandur) - two unkown to public countries form middle east Polish army bought 64 wheel motars and will buy about the same motars on new IFV chassis -after 2019. few photo set from linked video:

Firstly - Strong Europe Tank Challenge - polish platoon take a part in this competition. http://11ldkpanc.wp.mil.pl/pl/101_2295.html (Through these two days the soldiers of 34 Armoured Cavalry Brigade from Zagan performed the most important competition of the competition. It was carrying out activities platoon in offensive and defensive operations. As a platoon conducting defensive operations have earned the highest number of points, ranking the first place. However, during the attack they gave way only to the best platoon in Germany. Galery: http://11ldkpanc.wp.mil.pl/pl/4_1057.html nice photos from there: Today will be known winner od the Strong Europe Tank Challenge

Becouse OBRUM (http://www.obrum.gliwice.pl/) engeeners are fuckin retards. It have no sens - they have ready turret from light tank "Anders" do they try to put it to concpet of future polish tank. Good bless it will be done under Rheinmettal comand -so meyby it will be "tank" not shit pretending to be tank (Plo1 Concept, Anders, etc).

Yes, it's true, is even soviet patent - granade luncher is conected whit SKO and especially wind sensors -so luncher rotate and fire granades more effective way - so less granades for the same effect or the same for better protection. This solution was present on Ob.195 and some T-72 modernisation.