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SH_MM

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  1. Given the weight and the protection level, it is not possible that the Abrams tank variant proposed to Sweden featured the armor array of the a M1IP/M1A1 model. If the armor included depeleted uranium (or another material with similar density) IMO shouldn't make a massive difference, at least not a difference large enough to surpass the level of protection reached by the M1A2 Abrams with Swedish add-on armor (which had heavier and thicker armor than the US model). A lot also depends on how the DU is used within the armor array - what would make DU superior to tungsten (which can easily be offered on export tanks). Tungsten carbide is the armor material with the highest TE I've seen, easily outperforming both conventional tungsten alloys and uranium oxide (in scale tests).
  2. I don't really get the logic behind using a surrogate turret, if all RPGs and ATGMs aren't aimed at the vehicle. The fragments flying to the side didn't penetrate the simulated turret armor? But what is with the long shaped charge jet created by the MILAN ATGM after interception?
  3. https://www.sddc.army.mil/sites/TEA/Functions/Deployability/TransportabilityEngineering/Transportability Engineering Publications/WeightGrowthPaper082702.pdf
  4. Challenger 2 + MUSS APS being tested as part of the British MEDUSA program.
  5. I never noticed until now, that the adoption of TUSK requires removing the old side skirts.
  6. In the early 1990s, Rheinmetall worked on intelligent munitions for its 105 mm rifled guns and 120 mm smoothbore guns, designed to deal more effectively with helicopters. Two types were in development: a saboted sensor-fuzed rounds with a range of up to 5,000 meters (in case of the version for the 120 mm smoothbore gun) and a muzzle velocity of 1,100 m/s. A second type of saboted ammunition relied on laser-guidance, also providing a range of 5,000 meters and a muzzle velocity of about 1,100 m/s. Both seemed to have HE/fragmentation warheads, but this isn't confirmed.
  7. More like South-African, given that they hired South-African engineers to design it.
  8. More details: - https://www.edrmagazine.eu/idex-2019-rheinmetall-introduces-hybrid-protection-modules-for-vehicles Integrating ADS in the armor saves 50% weight compared to the existing version; some of this weight saving is used for the armor plating providing STANAG level 5 protection (or at least it is possible to reach this level; front and back plate each of the integrated ADS version both provide STANAG level 2 protection and act as spaced armor). When this module does not replace the existing side armor, the addition of the new armor plates reduce the weight saving to about 35%. For operating without a connection to the internal power, an alternative is being planned/developed utilizing a battery for 24 hours of operation.
  9. Defeating the ~80 mm thick side armor of the T-55 ≠ being able to defeat the frontal armor of the T-55.
  10. Nozh works as advertised, just the claimed efficiency is way too high.
  11. It was a different, very similar looking 3D model, as one can clearly see by looking at the gun mantlet. You just like to ignore that. Nexter has admitted that they have given money to Al Yousef for bribing UAE's decision makers. They stopped in 2000, when bribing officials in other states became illegal in France. They didn't break the law, yet they still bribed via Yousef paying money to UAE officials and even travelling to Germany to bribe people there.
  12. Oh, sure. A former worker of Giat is certainly an unbiased and accurate source, a lot more trustworthy than the lying Swedes, who only wanted to buy the MBT best matching their requirements, instead of marketing a single tank type. Sweden should have gone for the Leclerc, because that would allowed them to licence-produce the tank... it's not like they licence-produced the Leopard 2.... I am also sure that Sweden has absolutely no experience with hydropneumatic suspensions. I mean they only have been using a tank with hydropneumatic suspension since 1966, they surely lack the experience to judge when a hydropneumatic suspension is not suited for their terrain and is damaged by tests. But hey, some random former worker from the company knows better, he certainly isn't biased towards his own product. That never happens, just like people on the internet are never arguing in favor of certain AFVs, just because they are made in their home-countries... The Leopard 2 won based on actual tests results, but this has to be due to corruption, because the Swedes should have chosen the Leclerc, a tank so unreliable that it wasn't considered ready for production by the FMV, instead? Because without corruption the Leopard 2 cannot win any competitions according to you. That the bribe in Greece was negotiated by Wegmann while Krauss-Maffei (responsible for the export of the Leopard 2) hasn't merged with it doesn't matter, I guess. But hey, Giat not only was caught manipulating tests during the Greek trials, but also got the sole export order thanks to bribing officials in the UAE (and officials in Germany to ensure the export of the EuroPowerPack to UAE is allowed). Certainly they are better people and make a better tank, just because they are French
  13. The "evidence of corruption" was found in an unrelated contract for the delivery of the Panzerhaubitze 2000, not a contract regarding the sale of MBTs. There wasn't a comparative trial, so it opens the option of corruption. The Greek tank trials and the Swedish tank trials however were comparative trials held in front of an audience consisting of representatives of the Swedish government, the Swedish military, the tank manufacturers and members of the operator countries. It isn't a real option to bribe a procurement officer, when there are dozens of people seeing the trials and how data is recorded. Maybe you shouldn't have eaten as many crayolas as a kid, otherwise you'd move on and accept that a tank is not automatically perfect just because it is made in France, not everybody is a liar and corrupt, just because they don't buy French tanks. Funny thing is that even French books state that the reduced volume of the Leclerc saved 4 tonnes of weight compared to the Leopard 2's design, yet you believe that the 54 tonnes prototype tested in Sweden has better armor than a 62.5 tonnes Leopard 2 Improved! What's next, conspiracy theories why baguette isn't the only type of bread in Europe?
  14. Sure... the Swedes are all liars and you know better...
  15. Don't forget the Arjun! How dare these Swedes to not test the power of India!!! Yeah, the mean Swedes! How could they demand their future tank to be reliable, to accurately hit targets and to drive through muddy terrain and snow. These bastards!
  16. Ah, that old story. "It's always a conspiracy if my favorite tank isn't perfect."
  17. The slides say the armor is made by Plasan, an Israeli company. One of the photographs shows a Plasan armor demonstrator based on the Piranha 5 (parts of various different armor kits fitted to the Piranha).
  18. This is not an assumption by me, but mentioned in the patent by KMW. Each individual armor element has an opening (covered by a plug) on the top, which is used to fill them with Schüttgut (via gravity). This plug is visible on the Wisent 2 aswell. Aside of that, the shape of the armor element is optimized for being filled with Schüttgut rather than NERA; if it would be NERA, why not reuse the same falt-sided NERA modules as fitted to the Leopard 2A4M CAN? Hole and plug for filling the armor boxes, labeled with the number 8.1 in the patent. Light-weight NERA by itself provides poor protection against KE projectiles such as AP(DSFS) munitions and EFPs. That's why modern vehicles usually use a combination of light-weight NERA and passive armor (ceramics, spaced steel plates, etc.). Diehl designed a type of anti-EFP armor consisting of hollow steel bars meant to shatter the brittle EFPs. For additional protection against EFPs, NERA sandwich plates (labeled 11 in the patent drawings) could be added inbetween the hollow spaces:
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