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T___A

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  1. 35 minutes ago, Sturgeon said:

    Because they are two completely different things.

     

    No I mean why should we think that it is patently false?

     

    35 minutes ago, Sturgeon said:

    It's not. Millenia of human history had gone by without the concept of universal human rights cropping up, and it wasn't even truly universal in the Founder's day. If that's true, how could those rights truly be considered inalienable? I know how the Founders felt about that question, but it's deeply tied to their religion and a set of faith-based professions of belief, which I am not dealing with here.

     

    You're still not seeing Ulric's point. Ulric is saying because rights are intrinsic to a person's existence, that they objectively exist, how people or society feel or act has no bearing on whether or not they exist. It's like coming into a discussion about electricity and saying "Well because certain people viewed existence as merely atoms and the void electricity didn't exist until the last few centuries." It's just a non sequitur.

  2. On 12/15/2017 at 1:42 PM, Sturgeon said:

     

    On the contrary, the very concept of rights originates in the power of those who held them, e.g., the rights of kings. It was very recently that the concept of universal human rights was developed.

     

    That may be true, but it is irrelevant to Ulric's point.

     

     

    23 hours ago, Sturgeon said:

     

    Not accepting the point because it's patently false is not the same thing as "missing it".

     

    Why should we think that?

  3. Jesus Christ the Democratic Party was ran horribly:

    https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/11/02/clinton-brazile-hacks-2016-215774

     

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    That wasn’t true, he said. Officials from Hillary’s campaign had taken a look at the DNC’s books. Obama left the party $24 million in debt—$15 million in bank debt and more than $8 million owed to vendors after the 2012 campaign

     

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