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Apart from those two?


(from Technika i Vooruzhenie 2008-07 p.54)
AFAIK nothing else was published so far

Imagine a BV206, only that everything can rotate 360 degrees.  Like a excavator. 
Because I am sure our superior drivers can cope with the sudden rotation of his workstation and sometimes complete lack of vision while guiding his vehicle through narrow mountain roads. No less should be expected. 
 
In a way, the vehicle would be a turret on tracks. Kinda like this:

 
Also, welcome Zadlo to the forum and this GLORIES competition, I am looking forward to your great contribution to the greater good. 

NERA is reactive not passive.
NERA plates holed by the precursor do not stop the primary.

Because the DPRC's high end AlO production is allocated to aircraft, LAV and personal body armor and not for tanks; the sheer quantity needed for large AFV production exceeds reasonable production capacities.
At the same time, performance is not expected to reasonably exceed that of fused silica against the reference threats.
Fused silica is in effect just very pure glass, easy to mass-produce. It has also seen use in armor since the early 1950s; it is assessed as offering similar performance at significantly lower costs vs the existing threats compared to more esoteric solutions such as granite, which is therefore disqualified on cost grounds.
 
Such Suppressive Personship is the sign of a Reactive Mind. Hatethink like this may get your Operating Thetan clearance revoked and you audited for sedition.
 
On a more serious note, you're invited to, y'know, actually participate before complaining about the rules.

https://zen.yandex.ru/media/gurkhan/izdelie-327--samohodka-obognavshaia-vremia-5c87f93f44a47600b4faa265
Izdelie 327 SPG 

 
 
 

Yes, Kalashoid is a slang frequently used to describe AK-based weapons.

No, unfortunately the people in the 31st millenium werent so wise to base their vehicle on the Gavin. This is an FV432  

At least two LGBTQQIP2SAA and/or racial minorities
 
I am interested in your participation Citizen Mahan, I have read your file and you are under suspicion of the heresy of believing that that Xenu brought humans to Earth on Boeing 707s rather than the one true DC-8. 

OK, some initial goofing with the armor system:
 
 
Because Scientologists can't weld worth a damn, they are really short on options for armor with good thickness efficiency.  Now, granted, Sea Org-spec HHA is pretty great fucking stuff, and it's noticeably better than actual 1960s HHA.  It's comparable to top of the line 2019 HHA, actually.  But they can't weld it, they can't make it thicker than 1.7 inches, and they can't laminate or explosively bond it to make double or triple hardness steel.
 
This means that their armor arrays are going to be þikcqqqq.
 

 
 

Do not use female pronounes to refer to me. For I, Her Safe and Tolerant Majesty Queen Diane Feinstein the VIII,
 

 
shall only be referred to by female pronouns by members of the nobility, the holy ones who have made the necessary tithes to the One, Holy, Galactic, and Dianetic, Church of Scientology. You Pleb, may only use Use the Xer pronoun to talk about me.

Drummond is an idiot and hack, we probably should have a rule about unironically posting links to his tweets. 

so solid, much protection...lol

The extra useless steel certainly doesn't help, but it is far from the most serious problem.
 
Older tanks like the T-55 or M60 have much worse suspension than modern tanks.  Do you also upgrade that?  These older tanks also have drastically inferior engines and transmissions.  Do you upgrade those as well?  Their fire control systems are quite old.  Do you upgrade those too?

At this point, you are basically using a T-55 shaped box that you're going to put modern systems into.  Is that meaningfully cheaper than an all-new tank?
 
 
Even modern tanks are made of steel.  Maybe even mostly of steel.  The underlying hull needs to be made of something that can withstand the automotive stresses and provide a firm backing for the composite armor packages that are welded/bolted to them.
 
Steel is cheap, and RHA-grade armor steel has enough toughness that it can work as a structural material while doubling as an additional layer of protection.
 
Furthermore, ERA doesn't _completely_ stop HEAT warheads.  The tip of the shaped charge jet, also called the jet precursor typically punches through the ERA without being disrupted very much.  So there needs to be some sort of armor behind the ERA element to stop the jet precursor.

Very interesting vehicle with impressive UFP LOS armor thickness even at preliminary project stage

OBM vol.3 p.342 says it was able to withstand some 122mm KE round, and provided protection against 600mm CE.
The thing is - there is a difference between drawings of preliminary project (p.227), and another drawing (p.341), with later having more sloped armor at around 74 degrees

which leads to even more impressive LOS thickness of 90,7 cm,
however I wish there was some better source for that than my measurements using those drawings scaled by their T-64 type roadwheels and 5TDF engine.
 
...
This thing also had sight cover doors, unlike some other russian vehicles of not-so-distant-past:

...
It also had some sort of periscopic device for commander (which, obviously, was located in hull and had rather limited observation via perisopes in his hatch)
here, protruding on the starboard side of the vehicle:

inside:


Upd:
btw, btvt.info's web version of OBM vol.3 article on 287 has same image in somewhat different quality. Upscaled:



And another thing i should've remembered earlier. Btvt.info's article on soviet ERA development history, among other things, talks about ERA which was tested in 1968 with 3 vehicles in mind - obj. 434 (T-64A), obj 775 and obj. 287. For some reason i've always forgot about 287.
Anyway, that article has this drawing of 287 ERA UFP (as anyone can see,  in very bad quality):

and it says that shape of composite armor UFP+LFP is also shown, and that it was taken from drawing of obj.287-50-assembly2. And that this ERA-hull configuration was tested against Falanga ATGM (IIRC 500mm CE) and was also able to protect against up to 800 mm CE treats. (Which leads to a question of whether composite armor version was tested, and able to withstand, against same treats or not)
Anyway, it shows that angle in question is 75 degrees,
and that alone would lead an UFP of 90+130+30mm to having a LOS thickness of about 96 cm.


...
Another interesting feature of 287 is that people in 1940s-1960s were not satisfied at all 
with the way all that slat armor and other means designed to increase standoff distance from shaped charge weapons
also increase vehicle's dimensions and could be torn away by obstacles.
So both in US and USSR there were some developments on how to fold those things when there are no imminent danger. Gill armor on T-72 is rather well-known, and described there https://thesovietarmourblog.blogspot.com/2017/12/t-72-part-2-protection-good-indication.html in length (in part "GILL ARMOUR")
but there were other things which were proposed, tested, and apparently rejected - and 287 got two of those.

There were some thin presumably metal sheets which look similar to some of the prototypes which were tested in early 60s and later apparently lead to "gill armor"


and even earlier 287 had some netted armor - made using steel wire -

which by the way was also proposed for preliminary project of Obj. 432 in 1961

 

68 km/h and reinforced ditch can do wonders! BTW, it shows frontal armor layout and it seems to be unchanged from late 1980s, i think.

They used stocks of avaliable ammunition to fire just for this show. We should be glad they used something real instead of some kind of training round.
 
   So Russian army will fight and were fighting only in Syrias? Only against modern MBTs? Are you sure that HEAT rounds are as accurate at 4+ km as GL-ATGMs?
 
"They" are working on 4th gen ATGM, called VTRK.
 
   Well, if we already have stocks of those things why not to use them? Especially if they can extend effective range against most probable types of tanks that our army may meet.
 
   Shtora is not exactly "new".
 
   Exactly same as on T-90MS from many years ago.
 
   Nothing new here. Even T-72B1U for Nicaragua had them, it is kind of standart equipment now.
 
   This is show for people with "housewife" level of knowledge of military tech. Sometimes it feels like you are posting while drunk, i'm too lazy to find again an old Soviet training video showing T-64A gunner's station and ammunition selection system.
 
   Yes, original contract stated for this (article was posted in this thread), known information for many months by now.

XM732 with a LAV-300-90 turret

https://mpopenker.livejournal.com/2415381.html

 
 

offtop lol

Lol, so all this time you guys were seeing error notification as my signature, hahaha
 

@SH_MM
@Serge
@DarkLabor
@Scav
Move this discussion to appropriate place as all this is going way offtopic and have completely nothing to do with PLA AFVs. And you have 3 threads to choose from for this, hehe:
http://sturgeonshouse.ipbhost.com/topic/1576-french-flair/?page=7
http://sturgeonshouse.ipbhost.com/topic/1527-the-leopard-2-thread/?page=22
http://sturgeonshouse.ipbhost.com/topic/8-the-swedish-afv-thread-not-just-strv-103s/?page=7
 

When Purges are starting? I need to hide all those capitalist-made goods somewhere.

That's clearly K-1 on the turret face in tyool 2019.
Lmaoing@kharkov

Another interesting dump of firearm photos on imgur, mostly of prototype automatic weapons in the Royal Armories Collection. Here are some of the more interesting ones: