Tied Posted February 7, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 7, 2016 I always just assumed Sanders would order anyone who questioned him on those bits executed with a mortar. no, no, no that would require funding the military, and since the military industrial complex is the 1% they arent the people, America spends to much on the military, and they arent the people, they're the 1%, they arent the people. besides, im sure since the amount of money that will be sapped from the American military to pay for all the free shit™ means that the executioners will be former officers who were demoted for not confiscating enough porno mags and creating a Hostile Work Environment™ who will carry out the task by having the accused tied to a grass feed cow fertilized tree and throw packets made from recycled vegan restaurant napkins about global warming and equal pay in the workplace until they die from the impacts or contract seizures from the contents Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donward Posted February 7, 2016 Report Share Posted February 7, 2016 For posterity. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OR1kV2hBaGY I know this video tries to blame Carson but you'd think the forum moderators would notice that half the candidates were coming out on cue and would modify their introductions. These being, you know, professional media personalities. Also, LOL at the looks of JEB! Bush and John Kasich there at the end when they see Carson and Trump waiting for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tied Posted February 7, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 7, 2016 For posterity. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OR1kV2hBaGY I know this video tries to blame Carson but you'd think the forum moderators would notice that half the candidates were coming out on cue and would modify their introductions. These being, you know, professional media personalities. Also, LOL at the looks of JEB! Bush and John Kasich there at the end when they see Carson and Trump waiting for them. holy shit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donward Posted February 7, 2016 Report Share Posted February 7, 2016 I'd be scared too. Ben Carson stabbed a man once. And I'm sure being in the construction business in Atlantic City, Trump has seen more than his fair share of individuals who "disappeared". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vanagandr Posted February 8, 2016 Report Share Posted February 8, 2016 Are you a democratic voter with strong opinions? If so the turnout was utterly terrible and it'd be the closest your vote would come to something other than statistical noise. The latter, but not the former. I vaguely recall that you need to be registered with whichever party is hosting whichever caucus, so I don't know that they would have let me in, and besides IC is a pain in the ass of a city. Also Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donward Posted February 10, 2016 Report Share Posted February 10, 2016 It looks like Bernie Sanders and Donald Trump won New Hampshire; both in fairly convincing fashion if one believes the networks and polling. It'll be interesting to see who the GOP runners up will be since this will factor in who gets culled out of the herd next. Fiorina is an obvious candidate for this. I'm guessing Carson and Christie will still try to hold on until Super Tuesday along with JEB! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sturgeon Posted February 10, 2016 Report Share Posted February 10, 2016 A Bernie vs. Trump election would be pretty fucking hilarious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donward Posted February 10, 2016 Report Share Posted February 10, 2016 A Bernie vs. Trump election would be pretty fucking hilarious. In that scenario, I honestly think former New York mayor Michael Bloomberg would jump in the race. It is the scenario that my inner anarchist craves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Priory_of_Sion Posted February 10, 2016 Report Share Posted February 10, 2016 Kasich looks to be #2 in NH. The Kasich/Rubio/Bush/Christie 4-headed "establishment" GOP abomination has about 45% in NH at the moment, this is why I still doubt a Trump nomination It is just a matter of time until those 4 combine into a single candidate and get the nomination like a Voltron of old white men. Lord_James 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donward Posted February 10, 2016 Report Share Posted February 10, 2016 Yeah. Somebody needs to get to JEB! and tell him to go away. Fuck, for the amount of money that petulant clown has dropped on this race, someone could have invented a time machine to go back in time 18 months and tell him to step down. It must be a weird, secluded, insular world the JEB! lives in where he could have thought that he'd win. The issue starts getting real when we get to the winner-take-all states. The South Carolina primary coming up February 20 is such a case. And the polls - which have been fairly accurate by the way - has Trump ahead of Cruz by a healthy margin with Rubio trailing in third. http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/sc/south_carolina_republican_presidential_primary-4151.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donward Posted February 10, 2016 Report Share Posted February 10, 2016 Welp, Chris Christie is going back to New Jersey in order to "reassess" his campaign. This is after a sixth place finish which won't qualify him for the upcoming debate in South Carolina. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donward Posted February 10, 2016 Report Share Posted February 10, 2016 Fortunately, America has dodged the bullet of a potential Carly Fiorina vs Hillary Clinton screech off. http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2016/02/10/466211158/carly-fiorina-ends-bid-for-republican-presidential-nomination It would be nice to have women in politics whose voice doesn't sound like it could etch glass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Priory_of_Sion Posted February 10, 2016 Report Share Posted February 10, 2016 Yeah, a Condoleezza Rice vs. Elizabeth Warren debate sounds a lot better acoustically. SergeantMatt 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donward Posted February 10, 2016 Report Share Posted February 10, 2016 Yeah, a Condoleezza Rice vs. Elizabeth Warren debate sounds a lot better acoustically. I disagree with her politics, obviously, but I feel the Democrats would have been much better served running Warren this cycle rather than retreading Clinton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Priory_of_Sion Posted February 10, 2016 Report Share Posted February 10, 2016 I disagree with her politics, obviously, but I feel the Democrats would have been much better served running Warren this cycle rather than retreading Clinton. She's also a more complete candidate than Sanders. I disagree with a good chunk of her politics too, but she'd runaway with President if she ran this year with the debacle that both parties are undergoing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronezhilet Posted February 11, 2016 Report Share Posted February 11, 2016 I'm just going to say this: If for one reason or another Trump becomes US president, the US will lose all the respect I still had for them. Because fuck that guy. SergeantMatt and cm_kruger 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toxn Posted February 11, 2016 Report Share Posted February 11, 2016 I honestly doubt he'd be that bad. Although certainly we'd all get a lot of mileage out of mocking the US people on the forum about becoming a banana republic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronezhilet Posted February 11, 2016 Report Share Posted February 11, 2016 It's just... I don't know what his policies are, what he's planning to do, but... I get that the US has the first amendment which allows him to say basically anything, but in the EU he'd be imprisoned so quickly for hate speech. And isn't the US president supposed to represent the people? If over half of the country doesn't mind the things he says, I've lost all hope for the US. It'll be fun for diplomats as well: "No Mister Chairman, the US president didn't mean it when he said "nuke the chinese".", "No Mister President, the US president didn't mean it when he said all Mexicans should be expelled from the US.", "The opinions of the US president do not represent current US foreign policy." etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sturgeon Posted February 11, 2016 Report Share Posted February 11, 2016 No? The US President is the head of the executive, not a representative of the people. He acts as Commander in Chief of the armed forces, as well as bossing around the other executive arms. In theory, anyway. In practice, he has quite a bit less power than that.As for President Trump, well he might be a challenge for his bureaucratic handlers, sure, but I doubt he'd be a catastrophe, given past presidents who were far more chaotic than he. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donward Posted February 11, 2016 Report Share Posted February 11, 2016 Just when I was typing out a lesson in the three seperate branches of government, Sturgeon comes sweeping in to steal the kill. The Executive Branch was always meant to be rather limited in its scope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sturgeon Posted February 11, 2016 Report Share Posted February 11, 2016 The funny thing is that most of the President's power comes from the international misunderstanding of how much power he officially has in the structure of the US gov't. A lot of the domestic power is eroded by bureaucratic handlers who won't let the President do anything decisive (we got and inside glimpse of this with Obama's gun control executive orders which changed exactly nothing except by funding more bureaucracy), but the foreign power is still significant because the President is seen as the big dog.Sort of like the Monarchy of England, actually... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donward Posted February 11, 2016 Report Share Posted February 11, 2016 And even then, any treaties he negotiates has to be approved by the Senate and funding bills must come from the House. And there still is a great deal of latitude for governors to tell the federal government to pound sand given that I currently reside in a state that allows marijuana use and doesn't properly screen certain individuals from foreign countries whom they give drivers licenses to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sturgeon Posted February 11, 2016 Report Share Posted February 11, 2016 I mean, more importantly one should remember that there are battle-hardened bureaucratic warriors in place dedicated to making sure the President doesn't do anything stupid. Having said all this, I realize that the structure of US Gov't must seem incredibly opaque to Europeans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronezhilet Posted February 11, 2016 Report Share Posted February 11, 2016 No? The US President is the head of the executive, not a representative of the people. He acts as Commander in Chief of the armed forces, as well as bossing around the other executive arms. In theory, anyway. In practice, he has quite a bit less power than that. As for President Trump, well he might be a challenge for his bureaucratic handlers, sure, but I doubt he'd be a catastrophe, given past presidents who were far more chaotic than he. Oh, ok. You've had presidents that sprouted more bullshit than Trump? How's that even possible? The funny thing is that most of the President's power comes from the international misunderstanding of how much power he officially has in the structure of the US gov't. A lot of the domestic power is eroded by bureaucratic handlers who won't let the President do anything decisive (we got and inside glimpse of this with Obama's gun control executive orders which changed exactly nothing except by funding more bureaucracy), but the foreign power is still significant because the President is seen as the big dog. Sort of like the Monarchy of England, actually... Except the monarchy isn't elected, your president is. I still wouldn't want anybody like Trump to be in a representative or executive position. And even then, any treaties he negotiates has to be approved by the Senate and funding bills must come from the House. And there still is a great deal of latitude for governors to tell the federal government to pound sand given that I currently reside in a state that allows marijuana use and doesn't properly screen certain individuals from foreign countries whom they give drivers licenses to. I know it has to pass the Senate, but that still doesn't mean it's okay (imo) for Trump to say whatever bullshit he sprouts. The US government can cry as hard as they want about the president not representing the United States of America, but people outside the US will see it as such. Does that change internal US politics? Not at all. Foreign diplomats also should know how things work. But how important is the opinion of citizens of foreign countries? If you want to "make America great again", I'm pretty sure you need other countries to share that impression/opinion or at least respect you for what you are. It's an extreme example, but I'm pretty sure North Korea sees itself as a pretty great country. Yet we make fun of them. Anyway, I think you're getting what I'm trying to say here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toxn Posted February 11, 2016 Report Share Posted February 11, 2016 Isn't it possible for someone in the US to become president with a minute amount of the vote anyway, given how screwy the electoral college is? In any case; Brone, for your own sanity I'd suggest that you leave it. Otherwise these dudes will spend all day telling you about the five thousand-and-one rooms of the heavenly maze that is the US political system. You're better off using the neurons to understand transonic flow over non-rotating projectiles. Bronezhilet 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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