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No "they" were not.  There are 13 of the buggers 2 were in but I don't know what for.
 
Block 2 is on schedule as far as I know.
 
The gun is fully external to the turret crew space.  The gas issue was to do with the NBC system and hatch seals not allowing full over pressure - now resolved.   It has nothing what so ever to do with gas or chain operated.  Both types make the same volume of gas ex-propellant.  The real issue is if the weapon breeech etc is in the crew space or not.  LANCE weapon is not in the turret crew space.

Related. https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-04-06/multi-billion-dollar-army-vehicle-project-facing-cutbacks/100968910

Related. https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-04-06/multi-billion-dollar-army-vehicle-project-facing-cutbacks/100968910

Announcement of the decision kicked into the long grass. 
 
 

Announcement of the decision kicked into the long grass. 
 
 

Announcement of the decision kicked into the long grass. 
 
 

It is true that not all my mates are the smartest bricks in the barbie - but, none of them are that stupid   They are saying that the advice to the Minister was LYNX.  Lets leave further discussion till aftet the actual announcement.

Your mates are saying Redback won? Nice. 

Your mates are saying Redback won? Nice. 

Well, if the rumours are correct, Lynx has been chosen by the government for Land 400 Phase 3.
 
Here are the current rumours:
Political:
- 400-3 will be announced prior to the federal election (~21 May 22) & associated caretaker period. 
- Rheinmetall was chosen by the Defence Minister. 
- the incipient federal election meant Rheinmetall was favoured by MINDEF. 
- PM faced a choice: choose Rheinmetall or face a leadership challenge by MINDEF.  

Military:
- Army’s preferred equipment solution was Redback. 
- Army’s advice to MINDEF was Redback. 
- MINDEF distrusts ADF leadership (see Brereton Report). 
- this echoes selection of MRH over Blackhawk. 
- Army fears an “Australian AJAX” with vibration & reliability issues of Lynx to be resolved. 

Industrial:
- the L400-3 project, even with the reduction of scope of the numbers & variants, will represent Rheinmetall’s largest single contract ever. 
- Rheinmetall’s largest contract prior to this was L400-2. 
 
Either way, Lynx appears to be it.
 
**RUMINT** 

Probably best to caveat your comments with "according to my old mates" or similar.  My mates have the reverse story....

Got the cart before the horse. Alleged - yes rumoured - noise, vibration, & unreliability issues during RMA, hence the commonwealth direction to try the Soucy rubber tracks. 

Well, if the rumours are correct, Lynx has been chosen by the government for Land 400 Phase 3.
 
Here are the current rumours:
Political:
- 400-3 will be announced prior to the federal election (~21 May 22) & associated caretaker period. 
- Rheinmetall was chosen by the Defence Minister. 
- the incipient federal election meant Rheinmetall was favoured by MINDEF. 
- PM faced a choice: choose Rheinmetall or face a leadership challenge by MINDEF.  

Military:
- Army’s preferred equipment solution was Redback. 
- Army’s advice to MINDEF was Redback. 
- MINDEF distrusts ADF leadership (see Brereton Report). 
- this echoes selection of MRH over Blackhawk. 
- Army fears an “Australian AJAX” with vibration & reliability issues of Lynx to be resolved. 

Industrial:
- the L400-3 project, even with the reduction of scope of the numbers & variants, will represent Rheinmetall’s largest single contract ever. 
- Rheinmetall’s largest contract prior to this was L400-2. 
 
Either way, Lynx appears to be it.
 
**RUMINT** 

Well, if the rumours are correct, Lynx has been chosen by the government for Land 400 Phase 3.
 
Here are the current rumours:
Political:
- 400-3 will be announced prior to the federal election (~21 May 22) & associated caretaker period. 
- Rheinmetall was chosen by the Defence Minister. 
- the incipient federal election meant Rheinmetall was favoured by MINDEF. 
- PM faced a choice: choose Rheinmetall or face a leadership challenge by MINDEF.  

Military:
- Army’s preferred equipment solution was Redback. 
- Army’s advice to MINDEF was Redback. 
- MINDEF distrusts ADF leadership (see Brereton Report). 
- this echoes selection of MRH over Blackhawk. 
- Army fears an “Australian AJAX” with vibration & reliability issues of Lynx to be resolved. 

Industrial:
- the L400-3 project, even with the reduction of scope of the numbers & variants, will represent Rheinmetall’s largest single contract ever. 
- Rheinmetall’s largest contract prior to this was L400-2. 
 
Either way, Lynx appears to be it.
 
**RUMINT** 

Well, if the rumours are correct, Lynx has been chosen by the government for Land 400 Phase 3.
 
Here are the current rumours:
Political:
- 400-3 will be announced prior to the federal election (~21 May 22) & associated caretaker period. 
- Rheinmetall was chosen by the Defence Minister. 
- the incipient federal election meant Rheinmetall was favoured by MINDEF. 
- PM faced a choice: choose Rheinmetall or face a leadership challenge by MINDEF.  

Military:
- Army’s preferred equipment solution was Redback. 
- Army’s advice to MINDEF was Redback. 
- MINDEF distrusts ADF leadership (see Brereton Report). 
- this echoes selection of MRH over Blackhawk. 
- Army fears an “Australian AJAX” with vibration & reliability issues of Lynx to be resolved. 

Industrial:
- the L400-3 project, even with the reduction of scope of the numbers & variants, will represent Rheinmetall’s largest single contract ever. 
- Rheinmetall’s largest contract prior to this was L400-2. 
 
Either way, Lynx appears to be it.
 
**RUMINT** 

Well, if the rumours are correct, Lynx has been chosen by the government for Land 400 Phase 3.
 
Here are the current rumours:
Political:
- 400-3 will be announced prior to the federal election (~21 May 22) & associated caretaker period. 
- Rheinmetall was chosen by the Defence Minister. 
- the incipient federal election meant Rheinmetall was favoured by MINDEF. 
- PM faced a choice: choose Rheinmetall or face a leadership challenge by MINDEF.  

Military:
- Army’s preferred equipment solution was Redback. 
- Army’s advice to MINDEF was Redback. 
- MINDEF distrusts ADF leadership (see Brereton Report). 
- this echoes selection of MRH over Blackhawk. 
- Army fears an “Australian AJAX” with vibration & reliability issues of Lynx to be resolved. 

Industrial:
- the L400-3 project, even with the reduction of scope of the numbers & variants, will represent Rheinmetall’s largest single contract ever. 
- Rheinmetall’s largest contract prior to this was L400-2. 
 
Either way, Lynx appears to be it.
 
**RUMINT** 

“Hanwha Defense Australia has announced the site of its new Australian military vehicle production facility. The company will construct a new facility on a 20- hectare site at Avalon Airport in the Greater Geelong precinct some 60km west of Melbourne’s CBD. Construction of a state-of-the-art specialist armoured vehicle manufacturing plant is scheduled to commence in the second quarter of 2022 and take 24 months to complete. It is estimated that over 100 jobs will be created during construction of the $170 million Hanwha facility, which will ultimately support a large, long-term set of advanced manufacturing jobs when completed. Hanwha Defense Australia has been contracted for project Land 8116, a $0.9 to $1.3 billion project that will see the Commonwealth acquire self-propelled artillery systemsto be manufactured at the new facility. The company is also one of two shortlisted contenders for another multi-billion-dollar project where the Commonwealth is seeking to acquire up to 450 Infantry Fighting Vehicles for the Australian Defence Force.Design work on Hanwha’s new specialist armoured vehicle manufacturing plant has been underway for some time and is now in its final stages. The 32,000 square metre state-ofthe-art facility will initially be focussed on the production of Hanwha’s AS9 self-propelled howitzer, but pre-planning has been conducted to allow for the rapid expansion of operations should Hanwha also win the Infantry Fighting Vehicle project. In addition to the potential for multiple assembly lines, the plant will feature a 1500 metre test track, a deep-water test facility and an obstacle course to ensure the Hanwha vehicles function as intended prior to delivery. Ample provision has been made for Hanwha’s Australian industry partners to co-locate on the new site as necessary to streamline the manufacturing process and add maximum versatility as Hanwha’s Australian interests expand. Australian veteran owned project management consultancy Conscia has been working closely with Hanwha on site selection, facility design and the tender process to determine which building company will be engaged to construct the facility. There are five 100% Australian owned Victorian based construction companies currently shortlisted in an ongoing Request for Tender process. This support of local opportunities will continue throughout construction with a focus on the supply of locally sourced materials, veteran and indigenous employment opportunities, trainee and apprentice skills development and eventually supporting over 100 construction jobs in the Geelong Region.”

“Hanwha Defense Australia has announced the site of its new Australian military vehicle production facility. The company will construct a new facility on a 20- hectare site at Avalon Airport in the Greater Geelong precinct some 60km west of Melbourne’s CBD. Construction of a state-of-the-art specialist armoured vehicle manufacturing plant is scheduled to commence in the second quarter of 2022 and take 24 months to complete. It is estimated that over 100 jobs will be created during construction of the $170 million Hanwha facility, which will ultimately support a large, long-term set of advanced manufacturing jobs when completed. Hanwha Defense Australia has been contracted for project Land 8116, a $0.9 to $1.3 billion project that will see the Commonwealth acquire self-propelled artillery systemsto be manufactured at the new facility. The company is also one of two shortlisted contenders for another multi-billion-dollar project where the Commonwealth is seeking to acquire up to 450 Infantry Fighting Vehicles for the Australian Defence Force.Design work on Hanwha’s new specialist armoured vehicle manufacturing plant has been underway for some time and is now in its final stages. The 32,000 square metre state-ofthe-art facility will initially be focussed on the production of Hanwha’s AS9 self-propelled howitzer, but pre-planning has been conducted to allow for the rapid expansion of operations should Hanwha also win the Infantry Fighting Vehicle project. In addition to the potential for multiple assembly lines, the plant will feature a 1500 metre test track, a deep-water test facility and an obstacle course to ensure the Hanwha vehicles function as intended prior to delivery. Ample provision has been made for Hanwha’s Australian industry partners to co-locate on the new site as necessary to streamline the manufacturing process and add maximum versatility as Hanwha’s Australian interests expand. Australian veteran owned project management consultancy Conscia has been working closely with Hanwha on site selection, facility design and the tender process to determine which building company will be engaged to construct the facility. There are five 100% Australian owned Victorian based construction companies currently shortlisted in an ongoing Request for Tender process. This support of local opportunities will continue throughout construction with a focus on the supply of locally sourced materials, veteran and indigenous employment opportunities, trainee and apprentice skills development and eventually supporting over 100 construction jobs in the Geelong Region.”

“Hanwha Defense Australia has announced the site of its new Australian military vehicle production facility. The company will construct a new facility on a 20- hectare site at Avalon Airport in the Greater Geelong precinct some 60km west of Melbourne’s CBD. Construction of a state-of-the-art specialist armoured vehicle manufacturing plant is scheduled to commence in the second quarter of 2022 and take 24 months to complete. It is estimated that over 100 jobs will be created during construction of the $170 million Hanwha facility, which will ultimately support a large, long-term set of advanced manufacturing jobs when completed. Hanwha Defense Australia has been contracted for project Land 8116, a $0.9 to $1.3 billion project that will see the Commonwealth acquire self-propelled artillery systemsto be manufactured at the new facility. The company is also one of two shortlisted contenders for another multi-billion-dollar project where the Commonwealth is seeking to acquire up to 450 Infantry Fighting Vehicles for the Australian Defence Force.Design work on Hanwha’s new specialist armoured vehicle manufacturing plant has been underway for some time and is now in its final stages. The 32,000 square metre state-ofthe-art facility will initially be focussed on the production of Hanwha’s AS9 self-propelled howitzer, but pre-planning has been conducted to allow for the rapid expansion of operations should Hanwha also win the Infantry Fighting Vehicle project. In addition to the potential for multiple assembly lines, the plant will feature a 1500 metre test track, a deep-water test facility and an obstacle course to ensure the Hanwha vehicles function as intended prior to delivery. Ample provision has been made for Hanwha’s Australian industry partners to co-locate on the new site as necessary to streamline the manufacturing process and add maximum versatility as Hanwha’s Australian interests expand. Australian veteran owned project management consultancy Conscia has been working closely with Hanwha on site selection, facility design and the tender process to determine which building company will be engaged to construct the facility. There are five 100% Australian owned Victorian based construction companies currently shortlisted in an ongoing Request for Tender process. This support of local opportunities will continue throughout construction with a focus on the supply of locally sourced materials, veteran and indigenous employment opportunities, trainee and apprentice skills development and eventually supporting over 100 construction jobs in the Geelong Region.”

More Hanwha Redback promo/propaganda 
 
 

I’d say “less efficient protection”, not less protection. Common to all IFV-based light tanks/tank destroyers/insert your semantic preference here, Lynx 120 has protected volume it doesn’t need for its role. 
As the volume to be protected is high, relative to that needed by a purpose designed tank or light tank. the overall level of protection is lower.

More Hanwha Redback promo/propaganda 
 
 

More Hanwha Redback promo/propaganda 
 
 

More Hanwha Redback promo/propaganda