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  1. Militarysta
    Well forum filters cought link. Edit (by collimatrix who is awesome): http://www.wso.wroc.pl/cgi-bin/expertus/expertus.exe4?KAT=%2Fhome%2Fexpertus%2Fbazy%2Ftwoj%2Fpar%2F&FST=data.fst&FDT=data.fdt&ekran=ISO&lnkmsk=2&cond=AND&mask=2&F_00=02&V_00=Wolski+Jaros%B3aw+
  2. Militarysta
    You can find my "knowledge " in most then 40 publication about tank, and armour. Enought?
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    WTF men? Whole think starts here: where user Waffentrager post fake shit based on langugae barier. And thats the point - delibery making fake news and photoshoped "leaked documents" by Waffentrager I had wrote to him/his/it what I think about sucht beheviors: And Im still keep this opinion.
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    Doubt. Wiedźmin's job: And I fully agree whit this above. No special armour in corner - just turret roof.
  5. Militarysta
    Oh, sucht way... o.O
  6. Militarysta
    Why may I ask?
  7. Militarysta
    Sorry, is here somebody from https://thesovietarmourblog.blogspot.com/2017/ ? I like this blog but whit some statsment hard to agree -but Im not pretend to have absosolut knowledge so I just wanto to discus some thesis about the soviet armour put there. For example this: No, it's not. Kvartz in T-72A and T-72M1 turrets pretend to be not solid, sand, or liquid but somethink known as sintered quartz. And it's definetly not put AFTER casting but before. Firstly sintered quartz ( quartz sinter) is formed - but whit 3 thick reinforcing bars -then both "kvartz insert" are put to cast form and mounted there by this reinforcing bars -then cast is formed and after taking whole turret those bars are just cut above turret roof line. And thats all. It's look like this (sory for my amateur draw) After very havey shelling sometimes this reinforcing bars are "jumping" above roof line -like in Meppen T-72M1 or other hit many times whit penetration in to "kvartz special armour". :
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    Yes, and we don't know WHAT batch of PT-91 is showing this photo: And this: Cluou: Polish PT-91 was menufacured in sevral batched whit diffrent armour filter acoding to multiple polish sources: www.obrum.gliwice.pl/upload/downloads/spg/204/14-CHODKIEWICZ.pdf (2004) (notice mr Karol Chodkiewicz was general enginer of PT-91 tank): Older source (phd Wiśniewski) mantioned about CAWA2 armour (ceramics-steel) for hull and new turret. And manufacurer polish matrial claims: What literally means: To incarase tank protection in takn was used composite armour in turret and hull front plate and aditional reactive armour (...) In parto of turret cast are placed composite inserts to incarease armour protection against penetration by AP rounds PT-91 was introduced to Polish Army in 1993 and produced in sucht batch: 58 tanks between 1994 and 1996 58 tanks in 1997 7 tanks in 1998 33 tanks in 1999 50 tanks in 2000 20 tanks in 2001 7 tanks in 2002 48 malaysian tank in 2005-2009 And minor and major changes was: 1st batch - PT-91 - 92 tanks (new tanks) 2th btach was PT-91M introduced in half 1997 - 27 tanks: (new tanks) 3th bath after 1998 to PT-91M1 - 113 tanks (rebuild T-72M1) 4th "export" bath between 2004-2009 48 tanks - but whit turret produced erlyer So back to the point - PT-91 had 4 production bathes when one (3th after 1998 - 113 tanks) where just rebuild T-72M1 for cost resons, part of the 1st bath (1994-1996) was like T-72M1 (and this bath photos we have) bath 4th (Malaysian) have definetly changed to ceramic inserts turret and hull armour (confirm in manufacurer sources) but...turret for this part where produced before 2000 So basicly -there was some armour change in 90's. based on CAWA2 armour ps. turret: Again wery old photo from erly 1990s.
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    @ Laviduce Amaizing job! Respect! And now question - polish Leopard 2A4 armour weight is forr turret only 8900kg - gun mantled maks (630kg) = 8270kg no idea including frontplate and backplate or not. Are You able to assume ho thick (in mm) shoud be hipotetycial RHA armour at weight 8270kg and volume as You notice for turret? Exept gun mantled mask couse it weight exatly: 630kg and volumen is (as You notice) 0,19m3 How thick will be hypotetical RHA plate whit weight 630kg and able to put in gun mantled mask whit volumen 0,19m3???
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    Well mamy people here propably had remember trials when 4x shoot DM33A1 fails against PT-91M armour (Whit ERAWA-2) armour from 600m distance: Some trials in pdf: Well it's seems that at leat 91-94 polish PT-91 (build in 90s) and all Malaysian PT-91M have new armour in turret and in hull. Accoding to manufacurer PT-91M have 500mm RHA vs KE on turret at 30. Hull the same.
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    Oh and one more think - I have heard that M1IP and M1A1 armour could be just NERA like in M1 but after that placed SiC bricks whit steel sheets - just to incarase protection mostly against KE. Meybye stupid rumors, meybe not. This cermics-steel armour pretend to be only in turret and hull front placed AFTER NERA layers. AL something something tiles or corundium bricks. Somethink like this:
  12. Militarysta
    Methos, can You confirm (or not) is this really 2AV armour (hull)? (right - polish smile NERA, left - pretend to be some german erly NERA armour) Thickness added by some otvaga user: Well firstly I was tniking it have no sense, but if we assume that 2AV indeed have max 300mm RHA at front then this layout have sense - circa 190mm RHA + NERA + fuel tank (as I understand) after front armour. Hull 2AV:
  13. Militarysta
    Well, Andriej - consider the fact that there is slighty diffrence between trying to keep some way of opspec due to our countries law resons and delibery mayking fake news based on language barrier. This last think makes me angry. And in term this user it's not the first time -but on other forums (WoT gamers itp) Anyway and back to the topic: Photoshoped or not? If not (Im doubt to be honest) we can se IMHO at least 3 NERA plates:
  14. Militarysta
    You are unlucky - in Wroclaw city where I live there is big LG corp factory whit many Korean Managers. And preatty close there is TAKATA and Toyota big factories. Funny I know people who know both - Korean and Japaneese language. And I had ask them about this whit kindly ask for translate. It cost me a lunch. And it's not about tank but indeed lenses. You are fucked in the ass misarable piece of shit who misinforms peoples here. Honestly - go to fuck yourself, and as many as it's possible dicks in to ass of you, your family and dog or other pet you have. GTFO!!!
  15. Militarysta
    Sure but it's not consist whit values from Lindstorm and FMV: Leopard 2A0-A4 ( till 1988) for +/- 30. from longitiudal axis: 20% front area more then 400mm RHA 30% front area circa 380mm RHA ca 50% 300-350mm RHA
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    BTW - IMHO Your draw rather should have sucht values:
  18. Militarysta
    Yes, i had tried to do the same using all posible plans. And finnaly - it was nacessery to go and masured it by myself couse mesure made on draw was really inacurrate. IMHO real measure tape on real tank is final in therm of the LOS thickness... Unfotunatly I haven't opportunity to measured other crew station despite driver -slopped inner backplate is starting 3cm from edge of the hatch.
  19. Militarysta
    BTW - it wasnt the one Leopard 2A4 measured by myself:
  20. Militarysta
    Sweet but I had mesured it on REAL Leopard 2A4: https://zapodaj.net/fb111a0b1d0fa.jpg.html https://zapodaj.net/30762558935f5.jpg.html https://zapodaj.net/f5c200b6c64e1.jpg.html https://zapodaj.net/716460c5d1b8c.jpg.html https://zapodaj.net/2271c871df3f8.jpg.html https://zapodaj.net/a606e3d00f632.jpg.html https://zapodaj.net/f221e10d35d07.jpg.html https://zapodaj.net/d892de33beacf.jpg.html https://zapodaj.net/2e430aeaacc5e.jpg.html https://zapodaj.net/cb414c13f107e.jpg.html etc itp BTW - front hull was 600-620mm thick but I have not photo couse pissed off sergant (military woman...) almoust shoot me down for making sucht photos whit measure tape And text "back to the kitchen" wasn't the best idea to be honest... btw2 -inner masuremend to find where is backplate and how thick it is: https://zapodaj.net/f6cb1974e3b75.jpg.html https://zapodaj.net/c68bdfea955af.jpg.html https://zapodaj.net/fff0d8b7c7f67.jpg.html
  21. Militarysta
    @UP Value for L2A4 is not consist whit LOS thickness: So @ Laviduce - hull upper glastic is at least 320mm RHA, turret roof - no less then 320mm RHA too (my 580mm could be overestimeted - there is no more then 50mm RHA on this part of the roof -not 70mm *my mistake). - left and right turret side are equal - only weaker point is armour block behind EMES-15 sight -650- 660mm LOS
  22. Militarysta
    Yes, and Im happy that it's indeed not fake. On the other said - sombady who I know was so pretty sure that it is fake... As we can see - no, it's not, it's real and to be honest - it's now the most reible source about western armour... And it's amazing to be honest. Really amezing.
  23. Militarysta
    @UP, Yes, im in 99,5% sure it's fake.
  24. Militarysta
    Guys, this draw is FUCKEN FAKE Photoshoped by WoT gamers from Russia. Ok, respect for sucht fake but anyway -it's fake and bullshit. So sad, but no -we know nothing sure still.
  25. Militarysta
    Yes, it's true:
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