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  1. Funny
    mr.T got a reaction from watch_your_fire in Ukrainian Civil War Thread: All Quiet on the Sturgeon Front   
    You have to take these reports with grain of salt , as long as Iran is somewhat unsanctioned by EU its not going to jeopardise that .
    While i am certain there is some shearing of experience ,and tactical implementation with the Iranians i would be sceptical of any large scale drone purchase .
     
    This is most likely story launched to provide some cover for Biden when he is on his knees s*cking MBS beging for more oil.
  2. Tank You
    mr.T got a reaction from watch_your_fire in Ukrainian Civil War Thread: All Quiet on the Sturgeon Front   
    You do realize how artillery shrapnel works , typical 155 or 152mm grenade fragment can pierce an armored SPG armor at 50+ meters , stanag 4569 level 1 armoring which is kinda common on SPG is actually rated to protect against 20g artillery fragment only at 100m imagine unprotected artillery with lightweight titanium frame .
     
    When it comes to STANAG 4569 protection levels only once you reach IV vehicle is protected from a HE 155mm shell at 30m , and level V at 25m from the impact of HE shell.
    No SPG  supplied to ukraine has level 4 protection and level 5 is basically frontal armor of a modern IFV again way beyond protection levels of any SPG
    Original Bradley survivability requirement was 1 x 152 mm airburst at 18 meter and zero crew compartment penetration. Bradley has a least level V all roudn and level 5 frontal armor.
     
    Folks expect destroyed artillery means its blows up in flames , which is not really the case ,typical shrapnel does enough damage with close enough misses to render things inoperable or at least unsafe (note that barrel steel is very ductile but quite soft to handle the pressure , in comparison to armor stell shrapnel goes trough barrel steel like knife trough butter ) that is why Artillery shells make such great IED base very few armored vehicles can survive being hit by shapnel from one at any practical distance. 
     
    152mm shell fragments
    http://fotki29.ru/war_in_the_donbass/photo/ukraine_1417474109_.jpg
     
     
    ''The commander of the logistics service of the ground forces of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, Brigadier General Volodymyr Karpenko, specifically mentioned M777 Howitzers. 
    Karpenko addressed his grievance to the United States regarding the M777 howitzers they are supplying to Ukraine. As per Karpenko, the situation is extremely difficult, as these howitzers “constantly break down and require repair.” 
     
    In an interview with National Defense on June 15, Deputy Minister of Defense of Ukraine Denys Sharapov said after each “artillery duel”, on average, two of the six M777 howitzers have to be repaired because the components of these guns are damaged by Russian shells.''
     
    In a strike like this naive folk think that because there are not 3 fireballs  howitzers survived , in reality that is highly unlikely  even if some can be moved or even driven away likely hood of any of them remaining operational is very small. And then you have an Issue where you get spare parts and things repaired which is particularly an issue with foreign gear supplied in low numbers 
     
     
    An example on how artilery fire damages armor....
     
    In 1988 US Artillery command performed a series of tests to determine the effect of non-guided conventional HE shells, fired indirectly on targets, with the aim of modelling a potential engagement with soviet artillery. The ammunition used were 155mm HE shells.
    First test was performed by a battery of 155mm M109 howitzers utilizing soviet fire control protocols and ammunition consumption norms of the time. Targets were mannequins, army trucks, M113 APCs, M577 command vehicles and M48 tanks. Three fire missions were executed on targets, 56 HE shells each with contact and non-contact detonators (50/50). Effect on the infantry and the trucks was very close to prior US calculations. However, effect on the armored vehicles far surpassed expected levels, reaching as high as 67% of vehicles disabled.
    Although zero direct hits were achieved, fragments of the 155mm shells delivered serious damage to the armored vehicles - they penetrated armor, destroyed tracks, optical and targeting equipment and even caused fire in one of the APCs. This test has definitely confirmed the efficiency of indirect fire against armored vehicles.
    This command vehicle was successfully penetrated by HE shells fragments.
    This APC has suffered damage of the gun and external equipment.
    Next stage of tests lasted for seven months and was meant to research the effects of direct hits of 155mm shells on the armored vehicles. The outcome was that maximum effect was achieved by air detonation shells with non-contact detonators. The shrapnel successfully damaged gun barrels, external equipment, sights, engine radiators and chassis elements.
    The third stage of testing was the most spectacular - a full stationary fortified position was created with trenches and all. A full motorised platoon was deployed on the fortified position (with mannequins instead of men, of course). APCs, tanks, weapons and mannequins were all properly positioned and entrenched.
    To achieve 50% targets disabled the 24-gun 155mm artillery battery used 2600 HE shells. Even when properly dug in, 50% of APCs and tanks were rendered inoperable (mission kill). It was also noted that the testing did not take into the account such additional adverse effects as smoke, dust, scopes alignment displacement, physiological and psychological effect of HE blasts of people.
      General outcome of the testing was formulated as follows:
    A direct hit from a 152/155mm HE shell from above is guaranteed to achieve a mission kill on any armored vehicle. A hit within 30m from the vehicle is potentially able to damage the vehicle sufficiently to achieve a mission kill. APCs are exceptionally vulnerable to indirect artillery fire and high irrecoverable losses are to be expected in case of incoming 152/155mm artillery fire both of vehicles and of carried personnel.
  3. Tank You
    mr.T got a reaction from Scolopax in The Soviet Tank Thread: Transversely Mounted 1000hp Engines   
    GTA Ukraine edition ,atempted snatching of an abandoned BMP under fire
     
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OiNsr2t92NU
     
  4. Tank You
    mr.T got a reaction from Sturgeon in The Whirlybird Thread   
    Tiger turned out to be a failure , and an obsolete design the day it rolled of the production line. scrap it make something new or get a licence for Apache and make EuroApache if we must.
  5. Tank You
    mr.T got a reaction from Lord_James in French flair   
    Looks like fiberglass storage bins instead of armor
     
    https://ibb.co/ykY5nhX
    https://ibb.co/Cnc79nn


  6. Metal
    mr.T got a reaction from Laviduce in French flair   
    Looks like fiberglass storage bins instead of armor
     
    https://ibb.co/ykY5nhX
    https://ibb.co/Cnc79nn


  7. Tank You
    mr.T got a reaction from Gun Ready in The Soviet Tank Thread: Transversely Mounted 1000hp Engines   
    So if the warhead is always at 90° how is it used in short range when its probably not flying over the target?
     
     
  8. Tank You
    mr.T got a reaction from Dragonstriker in The Whirlybird Thread   
    Tiger turned out to be a failure , and an obsolete design the day it rolled of the production line. scrap it make something new or get a licence for Apache and make EuroApache if we must.
  9. Tank You
    mr.T got a reaction from watch_your_fire in Ukrainian Civil War Thread: All Quiet on the Sturgeon Front   
    Ka-52 shot down day one
     
     
  10. Tank You
    mr.T got a reaction from Cobras in Ukrainian Civil War Thread: All Quiet on the Sturgeon Front   
    Javelins and NLAW on both sides as captured gear gets transfered to Donbas militias
     
    Russian manual on Javelin
    https://vk.com/doc578708034_632152242?hash=ac5ff774d7fd534941&dl=497e5263594ac6b29a
     
    https://vk.com/video-77993266_456250393
  11. Sad
    mr.T got a reaction from Cobras in Ukrainian Civil War Thread: All Quiet on the Sturgeon Front   
    Indeed mostly FAB and Unguided rockets point blank.
    https://vk.com/video-160233565_456239930
  12. Tank You
    mr.T got a reaction from CrappyHead in Ukrainian Civil War Thread: All Quiet on the Sturgeon Front   
    Lack of precision guided munitions , means lot of old fashioned CAS at low level with all the dangers it entails
     
     
     
  13. Sad
    mr.T got a reaction from Stimpy75 in Modern Tank Destroyers / Gun Carriers   
  14. Tank You
    mr.T got a reaction from DrPlop in StuG III Thread (and also other German vehicles I guess)   
    Imagine some east europeans , buying this and getting a vehicle that has much less protection and firepower (low pressure derivative of the Leopard 2 gun) at the weight pushing that of a T72 only advantage is the modern optronics and of course with a price that way above T72 they currently use.
     
    Also what is the plan with RWS being obstructed in frontal arc by the panoramic commanders sight.
  15. Metal
    mr.T got a reaction from Rico in StuG III Thread (and also other German vehicles I guess)   
    Imagine some east europeans , buying this and getting a vehicle that has much less protection and firepower (low pressure derivative of the Leopard 2 gun) at the weight pushing that of a T72 only advantage is the modern optronics and of course with a price that way above T72 they currently use.
     
    Also what is the plan with RWS being obstructed in frontal arc by the panoramic commanders sight.
  16. Tank You
    mr.T got a reaction from RobertV in Anti-air thread: Everything that goes up must come down, and we'll help you go down   
    Screen shows the type and quantity of missiles available in the corner below the 1,2,3,4 numbers. 
     
    Missile range you can get from here. 

     

  17. Tank You
    mr.T got a reaction from Serge in The Soviet Tank Thread: Transversely Mounted 1000hp Engines   
    Russian take on high speed amphibious vehicle 
     

     

     
  18. Metal
    mr.T got a reaction from Laviduce in SSN for Australia   
  19. Funny
    mr.T got a reaction from Toxn in SSN for Australia   
  20. Tank You
    mr.T got a reaction from Stimpy75 in General AFV Thread   
    Hungarian Lynx in tetris camo  , in what looks to be the construction site of the factory where they will manufacture Lynx in Hungary. 
     

  21. Metal
    mr.T got a reaction from Lord_James in Jihad design bureau and their less mad opponents creations for killing each other.   
    It says A locally modified BMP-1 with Amphibious kit In Nasr City https://milinme.wordpress.com/2011/02/07/egyptian-days-3/
     
    right beside the  Photo of moded up M113 

     
    I guess some chinese inspiration behind that BMP mod
     

  22. Funny
    mr.T got a reaction from Lord_James in Jihad design bureau and their less mad opponents creations for killing each other.   
    Egypt ,high water speed BMP mod, ad some fairings and stick a couple of outboard engines on it.
     

  23. Tank You
    mr.T got a reaction from Laviduce in The Soviet Tank Thread: Transversely Mounted 1000hp Engines   
    T-90M turrets 

  24. Tank You
    mr.T got a reaction from Stimpy75 in The Soviet Tank Thread: Transversely Mounted 1000hp Engines   
    T-90M turrets 

  25. Metal
    mr.T got a reaction from Stimpy75 in The Soviet Tank Thread: Transversely Mounted 1000hp Engines   
    When you realy need sustained fire rates strap on the classic
     

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