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AFAIK the one at Greek trials still had TOGs installed but the CR2E spec at that point was to remove it, it just hadn't been done yet - I think the one on display was later on.
 
The strange CR2E pictured above is for the South African proposal, idk much about it but it appears to be a slightly more austere version compared to full CR2E spec - euro powerpack but standard optics. In any case I believe it lost out to the Leclerc but neither went ahead.
 
Source: Simon Dunstan,

AFAIK the one at Greek trials still had TOGs installed but the CR2E spec at that point was to remove it, it just hadn't been done yet - I think the one on display was later on.
 
The strange CR2E pictured above is for the South African proposal, idk much about it but it appears to be a slightly more austere version compared to full CR2E spec - euro powerpack but standard optics. In any case I believe it lost out to the Leclerc but neither went ahead.
 
Source: Simon Dunstan,

More on the Challenger 3 and Warrior 2. This is from September 28th.

https://committees.parliament.uk/writtenevidence/12523/html/?fbclid=IwAR3MXJBHlgabki4BwkB6946JiX_NGFedgjEDuR2oBpJzdDZ5Xm-G3HHlWNM

first i thought it's Altay but it's a different modernization of LEO II by BMC
Edit: it seems that they put the turret of the Altay with the german 120/44 on a Leopard II chassis

I believe that is the wheeled prototype for the Future Combat Systems program, which ended up losing to the tracked variant.

oh god how did these get here im bad with computer

Armoured Archives youtube channel has also begun a series on the Vickers Mk.1 to 3,
 
 

Armoured Archives youtube channel has also begun a series on the Vickers Mk.1 to 3,
 
 

Video on the story of the little-known Vickers Mk. 4 (a.k.a Valiant) MBT with some exclusive photos :
 
 

The Fire Control Computer is the CDC model that the Abrams uses (or near the same), however the entire system was contracted to Marconi and afaik Vickers and Marconi wrote the software. This is my understanding from the Hanyes Manual and the Vickers Tanks Landships to Challenger 2 book, as well as reading the relevant parts of the Jane's AFV Retrofit book referenced by SH_MM.

If you watch the video rheinmetall put out recently there is a glimpse of what looks like a leopard 2 sized bustle rack. So I don't think all the ammo will be in the bustle, especially given the location of the commander's sight. I expect the rest is in the hull somehow.

https://committees.parliament.uk/oralevidence/652/pdf/

Army apparently wants CR2 to fire gun-launched ATGM and have significantly enhanced protection.

The Fire Control Computer is the CDC model that the Abrams uses (or near the same), however the entire system was contracted to Marconi and afaik Vickers and Marconi wrote the software. This is my understanding from the Hanyes Manual and the Vickers Tanks Landships to Challenger 2 book, as well as reading the relevant parts of the Jane's AFV Retrofit book referenced by SH_MM.

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It is a mash-up of different sources and drawings from British documents made by a Chinese blogger who also sometimes posts here.

Vickers Valiant on a muddy track :
 

 
 
Barr & Stroud LF 11 gunner sight and the Pilkington PE  Condor commander day/night sight :
 

 
 
Hull ammo rack (30x105 mm) and driver's compartment, the handlebar features a throttle twist grip :
 

 
 
VR 1000 powerpack comprising the Rolls-Royce CV12TCA Condor 1000 hp engine and the TN 12-1000 automatic transmission :
 

 
The pyramidal louvers above the transmission are typical of the Valiant.
 

The Abu-Dhabi test was with a 7/2 was it not? I remember some images of the supposed test of the Mk.7 in egypt that was alongside an AMX-40 and a Challenger 1, I will try and locate them again.
 
Edit: ah no i'm thinking of the Saudi trials with the Osorio. Do you know what year the Abu-Dhabi trials were?
 
Edit 2: old copy of janes MBT says this and given its the same author im assuming the Christopher Foss vickers book also says this (i can check that tonight),
 

The Mk.7 was tested in Egypt afaik, there is a UK report about it floating around because they had to release some information about chobham protection levels to Egypt. This was in 1985/86 iirc. See images of the report that someone on the war thunder forums had:
 
 

The Mk.7 was tested in Egypt afaik, there is a UK report about it floating around because they had to release some information about chobham protection levels to Egypt. This was in 1985/86 iirc. See images of the report that someone on the war thunder forums had:
 
 

Prototype Warrior ADATS displayed at BAEE 1988,

Prototype Warrior ADATS displayed at BAEE 1988,

Prototype Warrior ADATS displayed at BAEE 1988,