Sturgeon Posted September 22, 2015 Report Share Posted September 22, 2015 Listen to the sound of rustling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donward Posted September 22, 2015 Report Share Posted September 22, 2015 I once got absolutely grilled in a youtube video where I mentioned my carry piece only has an 8 round magazine capacity. The majority of comments were that if you don't carry a full size handgun with at least a 15 round capacity, it is pointless to carry. 8 rounds? Planning on storming Iwo Jima with all that firepower, Tex? Because every defensive gun use results in you shooting at least 45 rounds at a horde of mooks sent after you by the local druglord. Sometimes things just get out of hand. One moment you're a successful liberal architect. The next you're in Detroit New York's garment district fighting off street punks and mobsters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meplat Posted September 22, 2015 Report Share Posted September 22, 2015 Had a few "run ins" with the over the top open carry types. Sad thing is, I'm not against it as a concept, I'm just against open carry if your nice piece is in a shitty holster. And loads of those tacticool holsters are trash. One guy came to one of our MV shows with a goofy super low ride (like- "the fucking pistol was at his knee"- low) To top it off it was a first gen G-17 with some 30 something round mag, so he was slapping the mag against everything as he walked. My comment was "Oh for fuck's sake man, get a real holster" upon which he launched into a "So you're against open carry at a MV show!? IN Arizona!?" I said "No, I'm against STUPID carry, when your extended mag is bashing against my friend's M114. You need to put an orange hazard flag on that goddamn thing". FTR, I wore a 1930's SD Myres blocked for the 1911 for ~20 odd years. Tried a Sickinger, but it did not cover the trigger enough to salve my mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brick Fight Posted September 22, 2015 Report Share Posted September 22, 2015 I once got absolutely grilled in a youtube video where I mentioned my carry piece only has an 8 round magazine capacity. The majority of comments were that if you don't carry a full size handgun with at least a 15 round capacity, it is pointless to carry. I liked that video because it was the first time I'd seen an Carry video not made by a total fucking lunatic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khand-e Posted September 22, 2015 Author Report Share Posted September 22, 2015 http://forum.opencarry.org/forums/showthread.php?130940-quot-Swatting-quot-Anyone-have-this-happen-to-them&s=ece04775a2469737c0e19a9a7345691b&p=2158900&viewfull=1#post2158900 Yeah? well where will YOU be when some producers with the rights to Hard Boiled 2 randomly approach you on the street and your only shot for a role is an on the spot audition? Yeah, you'll feel pretty shitty then, won't you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khand-e Posted September 22, 2015 Author Report Share Posted September 22, 2015 I once got absolutely grilled in a youtube video where I mentioned my carry piece only has an 8 round magazine capacity. The majority of comments were that if you don't carry a full size handgun with at least a 15 round capacity, it is pointless to carry. My wife is literally former PLA/PAP and her first actual carry gun in the US I got her was a Delta Elite with 10 round aftermarket magazines. (In 10mm, she doesn't really favor .45 acp for whatever reason.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sturgeon Posted September 23, 2015 Report Share Posted September 23, 2015 Technically, my first carry gun was a No. 4 Lee-Enfield. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khand-e Posted September 23, 2015 Author Report Share Posted September 23, 2015 Mine was a S&W 5906, I actually really liked it at the time despite it being a hammer fired heresy design. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khand-e Posted September 23, 2015 Author Report Share Posted September 23, 2015 Also, since we're doing movie bits now. S&W All steels, when you're trapped in a Tarantino movie's universe where people require a body content of at least 10% lead by volume to actually die, you know what to reach for. (Though I'm pretty sure they mostly used 659s in Reservoir Dogs.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tied Posted September 23, 2015 Report Share Posted September 23, 2015 Technically, my first carry gun was a No. 4 Lee-Enfield. Mine was a Автомат Калашникова образца 1974 года Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donward Posted September 23, 2015 Report Share Posted September 23, 2015 I mentioned this before, mine was an 1920s Ortgies pocket pistol in .32 ACP (7.65) that remarkably looks like this online image. I never had a chance to go full-tilt Meplat on some buffoon with this anachronistic but shockingly simple handgun. There are hardly any parts in this gun. I carried it in a god-awful Uncle Mike's inside the waistband deal with that cheap fabric snap strap which had a shocking tendency to cause the grip safety to be pushed if cinched too tight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khand-e Posted September 23, 2015 Author Report Share Posted September 23, 2015 I mentioned this before, mine was an 1920s Ortgies pocket pistol in .32 ACP (7.65) that remarkably looks like this online image. I never had a chance to go full-tilt Meplat on some buffoon with this anachronistic but shockingly simple handgun. There are hardly any parts in this gun. I carried it in a god-awful Uncle Mike's inside the waistband deal with that cheap fabric snap strap which had a shocking tendency to cause the grip safety to be pushed if cinched too tight. Pfft, you couldn't go full tilt Meplat with that anyway, It's far too modern of a design. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khand-e Posted September 23, 2015 Author Report Share Posted September 23, 2015 How to properly go full tilt Meplat: A guide. Sturgeon, Tied and Donward 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toxn Posted September 23, 2015 Report Share Posted September 23, 2015 I once got absolutely grilled in a youtube video where I mentioned my carry piece only has an 8 round magazine capacity. The majority of comments were that if you don't carry a full size handgun with at least a 15 round capacity, it is pointless to carry. This is all extra-hilarious for me because rainbow nation folk are required by law to concealed carry only. Hence I can't help but wonder how these guys will manage to stuff these monstrosities down their pants. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khand-e Posted September 23, 2015 Author Report Share Posted September 23, 2015 This is all extra-hilarious for me because rainbow nation folk are required by law to concealed carry only. Hence I can't help but wonder how these guys will manage to stuff these monstrosities down their pants. I guess speaking on the picture posted earlier, one thing that puts the icing on the cake aside from absurd ammo load. If he's planning on trying to dual wield those pistols, which I'm at least guessing is his plan since if he just wanted a back up gun, why not get something smaller you can hide elsewhere? (also, let's ignore the part where trying to re enact the movie Hard Boiled works very poorly in reality), why the fuck would he waste that fine cheery on top extra bit of money to put optical sights on both of them? what kind of fucked up superhuman vision abilities does this guy have? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toxn Posted September 23, 2015 Report Share Posted September 23, 2015 He's descended from a long line of chameleons? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toxn Posted September 23, 2015 Report Share Posted September 23, 2015 http://forums.delphiforums.com/autogun/messages/?msg=6387.22'>Listen to the sound of rustling. How the fuck are they calculating 'supressive effect'? Are bigga bullits just more scary or something? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donward Posted September 23, 2015 Report Share Posted September 23, 2015 Bigger bullitz act like an area effect spell which gives a -1 to Concentration and a lower Initiative roll to the opponent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khand-e Posted September 23, 2015 Author Report Share Posted September 23, 2015 My conclusion from my conversation with Emeric is that the most promising caliber range for his requirements is from .22-.257" caliber. Indeed, I wouldn't be surprised to learn that the 5.8x42mm DBP-10 offers a COTS solution for what he's trying to do, at close to the minimum weight. Assuming requirements such as those, I think .236" and .250" calibers are well worth a look, despite being pretty unconventional. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brick Fight Posted September 23, 2015 Report Share Posted September 23, 2015 http://forum.opencarry.org/forums/showthread.php?130940-quot-Swatting-quot-Anyone-have-this-happen-to-them&s=ece04775a2469737c0e19a9a7345691b&p=2158900&viewfull=1#post2158900 I'll make the obvious joke, but you know those holsters have to be re-adjusted to fit a much larger circumference of body+stretched-out XXXL T-shirt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toxn Posted September 23, 2015 Report Share Posted September 23, 2015 Recoil mitigation, son. {Pats belly, sending visible ripples of fat moving} Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khand-e Posted September 23, 2015 Author Report Share Posted September 23, 2015 I'll make the obvious joke, but you know those holsters have to be re-adjusted to fit a much larger circumference of body+stretched-out XXXL T-shirt. You forgot an X or 2 in there. On that note with him, I shouldn't insult the movie Hard Boiled by comparing it that abomination of a "carry" rig, even John Woo knows you're better off just firing at the sternum-neck level barely even bothering to aim when going super tactical detective mode or aiming for the general direction of your opponent's dick. (And he apparently also knows that people who shoot rifles from the hip usually miss, alot.) And random tidbit, I was fucking around with powley's and, after getting all the necessary data, determined you can get 3,150-3,200 fps out of the DBP-10 on a 20.5" barrel (QBZ-95-1 Length) if you loaded the cartridge to the insane pressures rounds like Mk 262 and M855A1 are loaded to. (Revised, made an error.) Was expecting more but it uses a pretty long bullet that takes up alot of space inside the case. LoooSeR 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sturgeon Posted September 23, 2015 Report Share Posted September 23, 2015 I thought the 95-1 used an ~18" barrel, like the 95.Also, anything is possible if you're working at Mk. 262 pressures. The only reason that cartridge is viable at its peak pressure is because great care is taken in making the ammunition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khand-e Posted September 23, 2015 Author Report Share Posted September 23, 2015 Negative, though for what it's worth, the QBZ-03 has an 18.5" barrel, sure you didn't get bad info on that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoooSeR Posted September 23, 2015 Report Share Posted September 23, 2015 AFAIK 250 round box mag for PKM/PKP. "Center-2015" military game/training. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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