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The Small Arms Thread, Part 8: 2018; ICSR to be replaced by US Army with interim 15mm Revolver Cannon.


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LMT's super good if you can afford it.

 

Yeah, they were who I was leaning towards, they have 3 models I particularly like.

 

Though one thing about the LWRC offering (they only have 1 DI 5.56mm design oddly) is that it's like literally a full pound lighter then the LMT made guns.

 

.....I also like FN's, they have an M16 pattern rifle, and while fixed stocks and 20" barrels aren't exactly the hot thing anymore, I just can't explain why but I've always had a thing for the M16 pattern style from the A1 to the A4.

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Yeah, they were who I was leaning towards, they have 3 models I particularly like.

 

Though one thing about the LWRC offering (they only have 1 DI 5.56mm design oddly) is that it's like literally a full pound lighter then the LMT made guns.

 

.....I also like FN's, they have an M16 pattern rifle, and while fixed stocks and 20" barrels aren't exactly the hot thing anymore, I just can't explain why but I've always had a thing for the M16 pattern style from the A1 to the A4.

 

Yeah, the LMT's monolithic upper doesn't come light.

If you want something lighter and a more straightforward M4 clone, get a Colt or FN.

 

I do not generally like LWRC's products, for the same reason I don't like Scientology.

 

If you need something really swanky that's relatively weight efficient, maybe try an HK MR-556? They're not super light, but that's because they have a whacko barrel contour.

 

Depends what you're doing with it. Honestly, if you just want a beater carbine there's little reason to spend more than $1200 or so.

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Been a little crazy about buying guns recently. Decided to get serious about concealed carry for me and my girlfriend (she doesn't have a license, and mine needs renewed), so I signed us up for a class and bought us both Glock 43s, which we shot today. These guns are actually quite nice for what they are; we were both pleased. I don't think any other subcompact single stack 9mm can touch the 43 for shootability, and at least for me the slightly larger size doesn't seem to impede concealability. Plus, concealing is easy as shit, you just go out and buy a $25 DeSantis Nemesis and stuff it in your pocket. Boom, you're set.

 

Shot the Winchester 94 today, too. It works, seems to be in great mechanical shape. Headspace seems a little big, but I wouldn't be surprised to learn that's endemic to the type. I'm not worried about it, it's just pushing primers out of their pockets slightly. Really pleased with this gun overall - though I guess I need to add that it hasn't changed my worldview on levers at all. Still like 'em in concept, not really in execution. Easy to see why back in the early 1900s Winchester 94s were hot shit, though.

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So this is a very interesting quote from the M1919 website I posted earlier. 

 

Saginaw Steering Gear Division of General Motors applied their considerable production 

know how by introducing the concept of casting some of the M1919 parts using a perlitic malleable iron alloy previously used to cast hard to machine interchangeable auto parts.

Saginaw trade named this class of casting materials "ArmaSteel".  The Ordnance Department used several different alloys to cast parts for weapons, however over the years all of them are commonly referred to by Saginaw's trade name.

Innovations like this, previously unknown in Government operated manufacturing facilities, lowered the cost of a single M1919A4 from a contract price of just over $650 to less than $60 in four years.

 

 

 

 

When was the last time you heard of anything like that on a government contract?  

 

Chrysler did a similar thing with the M3/M4 Tanks, they improved the buildability of the SHerman so much they gave money back, millions of bucks, to the government. 

 

 

Issac Newton Lewis, and John M. Browning both come to mind, as far as "giving loads of money back " (Or in Lewis' case sending it back. Numerous times).

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Just imagine that it's a word from a Semitic language where they don't write the vowels.

 

Well considering they only gave me all of one magazine...

 

....You know, I was going to make a poor taste joke here, but I really don't want to earn the forum title of "Mel Gibson of SH."

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Gun porn thread update?

 

Probably, just fucking with them right now, installed vertical foregrip/monopods and optics (Just a Trijicon reflex sight for the AR, and a x6x48 beast of an ACOG for the SCAR-17S) and unwrapping all the spare Magpul magazines I got.

 

Probably the only accessories I'm putting on them.

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Probably, just fucking with them right now, installed vertical foregrip/monopods and optics (Just a Trijicon reflex sight for the AR, and a x6x48 beast of an ACOG for the SCAR-17S) and unwrapping all the spare Magpul magazines I got.

 

Probably the only accessories I'm putting on them.

 

You have way too much money.

If you were gonna buy the 6x48, you should have just bought the LMT MWS Sharpshooter. Then you could have cosplayed as a British soldier in Afghanistan!

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You have way too much money.

If you were gonna buy the 6x48, you should have just bought the LMT MWS Sharpshooter. Then you could have cosplayed as a British soldier in Afghanistan!

 

Eh, the temptation of a match grade configured AR-15 from a brand like LMT was too good to pass up. I might actually try 3 gun competitions now if I can and get bored enough.

 

Plus it's a 16" barrel, I might get an actual M16 config in the future but, for a 16" barreled rifle or lower in 5.56mm I mostly just want a sight with a really good picture and usable at night but not too much magnification, and the Trijicon reflex fits that for me.

 

(The 6x48 is for the SCAR-17S for reference so it's the model zeroed for 7.62x51mm)

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In other news, the XM8 research project has bloomed into something really awesome. If this next one goes through, it'll be a project born from four separate interviews, multiple primary source documents, and a lot of legwork (including to HK's facility in Virginia). I've still gotta get the writing done, but I'm excited about the material I have to work with.

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