The Crossout thread.

[Ulric]

I made a dedicated mine clearing vehicle for the convoy raids. It turns out, clearing mines and destroying turrets gets you mad points during raids, so much so that killing raiders is only a secondary concern. It is best when used in platoon to make sure that you aren't left with mouth breathers to escort the truck.

 

This thing is fast enough to clear both mine fields as well as any turrets, and return to the main group before the even reach the halfway point.

 

[Ulric]

Wheeled drones are becoming a bit of a problem....

 

This scene is not atypical when playing around 3700PS anymore.

[Ulric]

I saw something very odd today. A two man articulated tractor trailer.

 

[Bronezhilet]

The mandrake is a pile of wank

[Ulric]

Caucuses and frame spam is pure cancer.

[Bronezhilet]

Colli and I encountered that a lot today yeah. Even my OP as balls Mammoth+frame spam couldn't deal with them. Hitting their cabs was way too hard and a miss would only do 50-60 damage. And of course their dual Caucasus autoaim my cabin.

[ApplesauceBandit]

What's also fun is when you do that Storm Warning brawl and there's multiple people nearby who have full sidekick drone builds.  You don't live very long when 8 are shooting at you at once.

[Bronezhilet]

@Collimatrix and I have achieved full autism:

 

 

We could go fullest autism but we only have 1 Mammoth each.

[Bronezhilet]

So I might or might not have thrown money at the game and bought 6 mechanical legs.

 

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...it was a good choice

 

These things are tough. The hitbox is gigantic and they have extra resistance against melee and fire. I had a dude without weapons drive under me and takbir there. I only lost a leg which was already heavily damaged from previous hits and barely lost any HP.

 

Dude sacrificed his vehicle to take out one of my legs. No problem bro, I have 5 others.

[Collimatrix]

If you've played with me recently, then you've seen my faithful steed.  Behold, the fearsome WAR TRICYCLE:

 

 

1750 power score, moves pretty quick and almost drives straight, and has absolutely ridiculous firepower and hitpoints for a vehicle of that tier.

[Bronezhilet]

2 minutes ago, Collimatrix said:

If you've played with me recently, then you've seen my faithful steed.  Behold, the fearsome WAR TRICYCLE:

 

 

1750 power score, moves pretty quick and almost drives straight, and has absolutely ridiculous firepower and hitpoints for a vehicle of that tier.

JUST DONT RAM PEOPLE WITH IT

 

amirite?

[Collimatrix]

The one that fell apart like a Japanese heavy cruiser when hit with... well, anything really?

That was a variant that substituted light frames to keep weight down and moved the cabin.  The standard war trike shouldn't have that issue.

[Bronezhilet]

So legs have another bonus. Apparently the whole "ignores momentum/impulse" thingey works for vehicles too. I can basically push anyone and anything. With tracks you can get blocked by a single moron standing right next to you. I don't have that problem, I either push him away or just walk over him. Which is actually quite nice since that means you can just walk over melee builds.

[Bronezhilet]

ALSO I CAN CRUSH SIDEKICK DRONES BY WALKING OVER THEM, IT FEELS SO GOOD

[Ulric]

So, I was wrong, clearing mins doesn't get you the points, killing the turrets on dead highway gets you mad points. Clearing the lines is always helpful. I have experimented with a double rapier build, and I'm going to play with a double Spectre build as well.

 

Rapiers are wonderful now. I have a build for siege raids that consists of 3 rapiers, a radiator, and a scope. You fire it is 2-3 round bursts, and you can knock out the turrets very quickly from well beyond the range of the turrets. I took this into a hard siege raids, and it went so smoothly.

[Collimatrix]

Big G was running a mammoth/fat man while I ran a dual rapier/dual lancelot build earlier today.  And goddamn are rapiers good now.  They might be better than spectre-2s, actually.

[Ulric]

And the best part is, only the energy and PS was changed, none of the damage related stats were.

 

Specters and Rapiers are still differentiated by optimal engagement range. Rapiers are amazing at long and medium ranges.

[Collimatrix]

Spectres loose out to rapiers in a lot of ways.

I had to switch out my rapiers for spectres on one of my lightweight trike builds to get a daily.  Spectres are heavier, and on a build that light that meant stripping a bunch of spaced armor and HP items off.  So I wasn't happy there.

The damage numbers from the autocannons are consistent at all ranges, unlike the spectres.  But also, they're higher even at close ranges for the first few hits.  Spectres don't develop their full damage potential until you get several consecutive hits.  So, with spectres you need to be able to stand and deliver more or less continuously, while the autocannons perform more favorably in hit and run attacks.  Guess which approach is more appropriate for a lightweight build.

Autocannons do require leading the target, while the spectres and hitscan.  But who cares?  At the ranges where that makes a difference the autocannons do way more damage anyway.

The only other thing the spectres have going for them is that they are doing all of their damage to a single piece, rather than spreading it out.  But their bloom increases so quickly that this doesn't really matter.

Right now I'm sold on rapiers being all around better than spectres at all ranges.

[ApplesauceBandit]

 

Time to sell duck fragments lest the next set of brawls reintroduce them.

[Ulric]

4100 PS fast build with two rapier, two purple radiators, and 30% XP boost. Probably overkill on the radiator, but whatever.

 

[ApplesauceBandit]

 

I finally got what I needed to make my first purple parts, have a set of tracks.  I've found myself enjoying a radiator+little boy+rapier setup.  I originally had this on 8 wheels, but now I've got it on tracks and it's a whole lot more tanky (and slow).  I was originally working towards a fat man next, but I've come to realize that a triple rapier build would be pretty strong.

[Ulric]

Triple Rapier is pretty damn good, in certain situations.

[Ulric]

This is my raid build, but I've taken it into PvP as well. It worked well enough, specifically for striping weapons off of higher PS builds.

 

 

This is a possible PvP optimization:

 

[Ulric]

8 hours ago, Collimatrix said:

Spectres loose out to rapiers in a lot of ways.

I had to switch out my rapiers for spectres on one of my lightweight trike builds to get a daily.  Spectres are heavier, and on a build that light that meant stripping a bunch of spaced armor and HP items off.  So I wasn't happy there.

The damage numbers from the autocannons are consistent at all ranges, unlike the spectres.  But also, they're higher even at close ranges for the first few hits.  Spectres don't develop their full damage potential until you get several consecutive hits.  So, with spectres you need to be able to stand and deliver more or less continuously, while the autocannons perform more favorably in hit and run attacks.  Guess which approach is more appropriate for a lightweight build.

Autocannons do require leading the target, while the spectres and hitscan.  But who cares?  At the ranges where that makes a difference the autocannons do way more damage anyway.

The only other thing the spectres have going for them is that they are doing all of their damage to a single piece, rather than spreading it out.  But their bloom increases so quickly that this doesn't really matter.

Right now I'm sold on rapiers being all around better than spectres at all ranges.

 

Specters have superior depression angles, but inferior elevation angles that rapiers. Being hull down is still an important tactic in this game.

[Bronezhilet]

Did someone say... walkies?

 

 

Thing has an underslung Equalizer.