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Militarysta got a reaction from Lord_James in The Leopard 2 Thread
From my article about 2AV armour.
Many thanks for all peoples who help me whit this subject ;-)
2AV armour:
Turret armour citadele:
turret special armour:
hull in 1st version:
B&V test station, simmilar armour was choosen for 2A0:
Compare wester and estern tank but important notice - in my article is almoust exatly the same as @SH_MM mentioned above:
Compare:
And AT weapons and sevral APFSDS munition:
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Militarysta got a reaction from skylancer-3441 in The Leopard 2 Thread
From my article about 2AV armour.
Many thanks for all peoples who help me whit this subject ;-)
2AV armour:
Turret armour citadele:
turret special armour:
hull in 1st version:
B&V test station, simmilar armour was choosen for 2A0:
Compare wester and estern tank but important notice - in my article is almoust exatly the same as @SH_MM mentioned above:
Compare:
And AT weapons and sevral APFSDS munition:
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Militarysta got a reaction from Laviduce in The Leopard 2 Thread
From my article about 2AV armour.
Many thanks for all peoples who help me whit this subject ;-)
2AV armour:
Turret armour citadele:
turret special armour:
hull in 1st version:
B&V test station, simmilar armour was choosen for 2A0:
Compare wester and estern tank but important notice - in my article is almoust exatly the same as @SH_MM mentioned above:
Compare:
And AT weapons and sevral APFSDS munition:
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Militarysta got a reaction from N-L-M in Polish Armoured Vehicles
Two photos of factory test RAK 120mm mortarsm taken by myself
(huge - 12MB eacht)
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Militarysta got a reaction from Ramlaen in Polish Armoured Vehicles
OK, so Poland is sending LOR for 60 Javelin FGM-147F/G CLU and 180 missailes as first bath.
Javeli will go to Terytorial Forces not Armed Forces. Whole need is ca.255 Javelin CLU and 1,5k missailes + other ATGM.
All is based here:
https://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wojska_Obrony_Terytorialnej
Right now Terytorial Forces had 17 brigades till december 2019.
In eacht brigade we have: 5 infanty bde, and independent support company. In theory finall modell will look like this:
Terytorial Forces Infanty Bde: all :18 ATGM's
1st inf reg in support platoon - 3x ATGM Javelin
2th inf reg in support platoon - 3x ATGM Javelin
3th inf reg in support platoon - 3x ATGM Javelin
4th inf reg in support platoon - 3x ATGM Javelin
5th inf reg in support platoon - 3x ATGM Javelin
1st independent support platoon - 3x Spike ATGM
So whole terytorial forces need at least 255 Javelin ATGM and 51 Spike LR ATGM. Till now this 60 CLU and 180 missiles will be placed "temporary" on level "independent support platoon" but finall modell is like above.
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Other news in case ATGM in Poland:
Polish WITU is developing "Mosqito" ATGM system - it will be ready in 2022 whit unit cost (ATGM) ca 75k $. 80% components is producet in Poland.
And from the other side - Telesystem-Mesko is ending "The Pirate" system so laser guided ATGM:
Whit very interesting "APSproof" laser guidence system.
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Militarysta got a reaction from That_Baka in Polish Armoured Vehicles
This time, photo taken by myself.
APC Rosomak firing single 81mm camouflage granate GAK-81
single 81mm in 1st salvo:
and single 81mm in 2th salvo:
And this one was mucht difficult due to weather conditions.
Six 120mm motar round on one picture:
And twins:
And the result:
In summary - 120mm SMK Rak is very good weapons, very powerfull modern and now the best serial produce in the world. Nice that at least one type of weapons producing in my country can be on top lvl...
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Militarysta got a reaction from Gun Ready in Main Ground Combat System (MGCS) and Euro Main Battle Tank (EMBT)
My all dear friends,
first of all - polish MoD mr Błaszczak is lying when he only open his mounth. The same PiS (Law and Justice party) goverment. This is faritails propose only by parlement election this outum in Poland. They will be no new tank in possible to recoginze future in Poland - 2PL, 2A5 after small upgrade and just refresh T-72M1 and thats all. Poland will take Finish 2A6 and Protugaleese if those countres will sell those tanks. And thats all. You must understand that this goverment is lying whole time and sucht "declaracton of interest" is only bubble talks to deluge all around - german partenrs, EU industry, polish soliders and...people before parlament election. Whole goverment narration is about "building strong army" whit 4th division, unit deploy to est, taking US forcet to Poland and tehnical modernisation of the Polish Army. Inn all aspect is low-cost shit. Sorry for talk this straight. In case tanks - all buble talk about "super duper IVgen German-French=Polish tank" is only to deluge that will be done more then...to small refresh 230 T-72M1 and 148 Leopard 2PL (and this program is totall disaster right now).
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Militarysta got a reaction from Clan_Ghost_Bear in Main Ground Combat System (MGCS) and Euro Main Battle Tank (EMBT)
My all dear friends,
first of all - polish MoD mr Błaszczak is lying when he only open his mounth. The same PiS (Law and Justice party) goverment. This is faritails propose only by parlement election this outum in Poland. They will be no new tank in possible to recoginze future in Poland - 2PL, 2A5 after small upgrade and just refresh T-72M1 and thats all. Poland will take Finish 2A6 and Protugaleese if those countres will sell those tanks. And thats all. You must understand that this goverment is lying whole time and sucht "declaracton of interest" is only bubble talks to deluge all around - german partenrs, EU industry, polish soliders and...people before parlament election. Whole goverment narration is about "building strong army" whit 4th division, unit deploy to est, taking US forcet to Poland and tehnical modernisation of the Polish Army. Inn all aspect is low-cost shit. Sorry for talk this straight. In case tanks - all buble talk about "super duper IVgen German-French=Polish tank" is only to deluge that will be done more then...to small refresh 230 T-72M1 and 148 Leopard 2PL (and this program is totall disaster right now).
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Militarysta reacted to SH_MM in Tanks guns and ammunition.
Turkish APFSDS (licence-produced Israeli round?):
Penetrates 658 mm LOS against a steel plate sloped at 70°.
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Militarysta got a reaction from Gun Ready in Polish Armoured Vehicles
@Gun Ready
It's mucht more complicated. First - this goverment in Poland now have dogma about building 4th division (The 18th "Iron" division) and still having in army 12 mech and mot bde (+ 2 areomobile). While we haven't enught soilders and money. To be honest - money level cover at least 6-8 briades on "NATO level" wile they want to have double of that. Impossible.
And now we have typical improvisation. Polish Army whit 4 div need at least 840 tanks.
IMHO Rheinmetall will have difficult times in Poland couse 2PL program is very far from good cooperation term. Of course at least half is couse polish industry sins but in overal shape - KMW proposal in 2015 where mucht better and accurately calculated. In common opinion here choose RHM was mistake for multiple reson but it was caused by polish PGZ group who chose a partner in the program. PGZ told RHM fairytails about polish competition and RHM told PGZ fairytails about cost and posibilitiest to improve Leo 2A4. Result as known - whole 2PL program for 128 Leopard 2A4 will cost 3,4 bln PLN and finall tanks capabilities are questionable in some areas.
Now this whole bubble talko about "polish nex gen tank" is just smooke scren before parliamentary elections (this autum) and easy PR explanation why T-72M1 are upgraded in so limited way.
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Militarysta reacted to Wiedzmin in The Leopard 2 Thread
second variant of Leopard 2AV hull, unfortunately there is only one blueprint for front section and it's doesn't show special armour inserts, and judging by the blueprint it's still have fuel tank inside
As part of the above-mentioned study contract, a bow section using the new, martensite-hard welding is to be prepared and tested under fire. The bow section corresponds in arrangement and dimension of the frontal structure to the pre-haulage model already shot in Meppen according to the KM drawing no. SK 156-181.000.000.2 (BWB PA 145/76). Deviating from that miss the Kettenabdeckbereiche and the Turmdrehkanz. For details, please refer to the enclosed MaK drawing no. 13-SK-4228-01.00.0. The usual austenitic sweat connection is replaced by the martensite hardening. The bombardment tests are to be used exclusively for assessing the new type of welded connection under bombardment, that is to say by means of balancing shells. Consequently, the jalousie profiles and insert plates are not provided with gummed up bumps and holes. The completion of this bow section will be completed in mid-December 1976, so that at the beginning of January 1977, the transport to Meppen can be arranged. We ask for scheduling the shelling attempts from January 1977.
this is description for this draw
but, there is 2 hand drawn armour schemes inside report
as you can see it has similar front section structure, but has no fuel tank, BUT if you look at first scheme it tells that the is 175mm air gap between first and second jalousie blocks(special armour packs), but scheme itself and second shows that there is 3rd pack(middle), i don't know it this error(reports usually have them) or there is version without fuel tank, or maybe there was some sort of inserts to left and right from fuel tank
tank cut-away show fuel tank
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Militarysta reacted to EnsignExpendable in The Soviet Tank Thread: Transversely Mounted 1000hp Engines
My book has been submitted! Now to sit back and become a New York Times bestselling author.
Preorder it if you haven't already, and if you have then preorder a second one.
https://www.amazon.com/Designing-T-34-2019-Genesis-Revolutionary/dp/1911658301
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Militarysta reacted to TWMSR in Tanks guns and ammunition.
Yep, me bad, definitely not 3BM-22. Probably it is 3BM-26. 3BM-29 is said to use DU core. And at those graphics DU is coloured red-violet, not red
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Militarysta reacted to Wiedzmin in The Leopard 2 Thread
first variant (from what i have) of L2AV hull front(fuel tank between 1st and 2nd armour arrays), drawing name "Vorerprobungsmuster Wannebug SK150-1800.00.012.0 Krauss-Maffei AG Munchen-Allach"
25.04.75
it's test rig for firing trials, later they changed armour inserts, maybe someone can translate german part about "Peco Bolzen" etc ?
it can't
HOT
MILAN
and even this graph's is a mean crater depth, not penetration
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Militarysta got a reaction from Xlucine in Polish Armoured Vehicles
This time, photo taken by myself.
APC Rosomak firing single 81mm camouflage granate GAK-81
single 81mm in 1st salvo:
and single 81mm in 2th salvo:
And this one was mucht difficult due to weather conditions.
Six 120mm motar round on one picture:
And twins:
And the result:
In summary - 120mm SMK Rak is very good weapons, very powerfull modern and now the best serial produce in the world. Nice that at least one type of weapons producing in my country can be on top lvl...
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Militarysta got a reaction from Stimpy75 in ATGMs and RPGs for infantry - a thread for rebels around the world to choose their ATGM supplier.
My article in english version Frag Out! Magazine:
https://fragout.uberflip.com/i/1150145-frag-out-magazine-25/69?
This time about Panzerfaust 3 and RGW90 familiy. For user here may be interesting part about PzF-3T/IT test in Poland vs ERA.
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Militarysta got a reaction from N-L-M in ATGMs and RPGs for infantry - a thread for rebels around the world to choose their ATGM supplier.
My article in english version Frag Out! Magazine:
https://fragout.uberflip.com/i/1150145-frag-out-magazine-25/69?
This time about Panzerfaust 3 and RGW90 familiy. For user here may be interesting part about PzF-3T/IT test in Poland vs ERA.