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Laser Shark reacted to Cleb in Kimchi armoured vehicles: K1, K2, K21 and other AFVs from Worse Korea
According to Yonhap citing DAPA, South Korea and Egypt signed a deal for an order of K9s and a technology transfer worth $1.65 Billion.
https://en.yna.co.kr/view/AEN20220201001900325
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Laser Shark got a reaction from LoooSeR in Kimchi armoured vehicles: K1, K2, K21 and other AFVs from Worse Korea
Just like how Leo 2A7NO is going to differ from the Leo 2A7V that are currently in Norway, the two K2s are also not identical to what they're actually proposing:
This looks like the same enchanced armour package that we've seen on K2PL & K2M models, but unlike those two, there's a standard K2 under it (6 vs 7 roadwheels).
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Laser Shark got a reaction from Lord_James in Kimchi armoured vehicles: K1, K2, K21 and other AFVs from Worse Korea
Just like how Leo 2A7NO is going to differ from the Leo 2A7V that are currently in Norway, the two K2s are also not identical to what they're actually proposing:
This looks like the same enchanced armour package that we've seen on K2PL & K2M models, but unlike those two, there's a standard K2 under it (6 vs 7 roadwheels).
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Laser Shark got a reaction from Cleb in Kimchi armoured vehicles: K1, K2, K21 and other AFVs from Worse Korea
Just like how Leo 2A7NO is going to differ from the Leo 2A7V that are currently in Norway, the two K2s are also not identical to what they're actually proposing:
This looks like the same enchanced armour package that we've seen on K2PL & K2M models, but unlike those two, there's a standard K2 under it (6 vs 7 roadwheels).
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Laser Shark got a reaction from Laviduce in Kimchi armoured vehicles: K1, K2, K21 and other AFVs from Worse Korea
Just like how Leo 2A7NO is going to differ from the Leo 2A7V that are currently in Norway, the two K2s are also not identical to what they're actually proposing:
This looks like the same enchanced armour package that we've seen on K2PL & K2M models, but unlike those two, there's a standard K2 under it (6 vs 7 roadwheels).
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Laser Shark reacted to SH_MM in The Leopard 2 Thread
The military load class is not equivalent with the combat weight, but references the gross vehicle weight. The German Leopard 2A5 also has a MLC 70 rating, despite its combat weight being only 59.5 metric tons.
A Leopard 2A4 fitted with IBD's full Evolution kit has a weight of 60 metric tons. It was specifically designed to fit this limit, as the original torsion bars used on the early Leopard 2 tanks can only withstand 60 tons of weight - exceeding that weight requires an expensive change of torsion bars (that most people buying IBD's armor upgrade rather than KMW's more complex upgrades are not willing to pay).
Singapore did not buy the full kit (no mine protection plate, no roof add-on armor and no frontal KE/ATGM protection module).
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Laser Shark reacted to SH_MM in The Leopard 2 Thread
The original side skirts are removed when applying the Evolution armor upgrade, so the total weight of the package is above 4 tons. The Singapore Army did not order the heavy "duel portion" of the Evolution kit (for improved protection against APFSDS rounds and ATGMs along the frontal arc), but only the anti-RPG armor. Such armor systems are not that heavy.
The Leopard 2A4M CAN weighs 62.5 tons, but features 3 tons of mine/IED protection that the Singaporean Leopard 2SG lacks. So the weight difference is some 800 kilograms, which is the result of the different armor technologies and protection requirements.
I wouldn't be surprised if the 58.7 tons are the misquoted empty weight rather than the actual combat weight.
Singapore uses parts of the modular Evolution armor upgrade (with AMAP armor) from IBD. The weights of different tanks fitted with the full kit are known. None of them even scratches the 70 tons mark - even the Leopard 2 ATD with L/55 gun, APU and RWS weighs less.
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The weight of the track skirt armor for the Leopard 2 Evolution is 450 kg/m². Depending on desired protection level, the turret armor can be even lighter.
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Laser Shark got a reaction from Rico in Kimchi armoured vehicles: K1, K2, K21 and other AFVs from Worse Korea
Just like how Leo 2A7NO is going to differ from the Leo 2A7V that are currently in Norway, the two K2s are also not identical to what they're actually proposing:
This looks like the same enchanced armour package that we've seen on K2PL & K2M models, but unlike those two, there's a standard K2 under it (6 vs 7 roadwheels).
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Laser Shark got a reaction from Scolopax in Kimchi armoured vehicles: K1, K2, K21 and other AFVs from Worse Korea
Article and video here: https://www.tu.no/artikler/loddtrekning-avgjorde-forste-del-av-stridsvognkonkurransen/516865
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Laser Shark got a reaction from Lord_James in The Leopard 2 Thread
Some photos of Leo 2A7V in Norway:
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Laser Shark got a reaction from Gun Ready in The Leopard 2 Thread
Some photos of Leo 2A7V in Norway:
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Laser Shark reacted to Cleb in Kimchi armoured vehicles: K1, K2, K21 and other AFVs from Worse Korea
More images of the K2NO
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Laser Shark got a reaction from Cleb in Kimchi armoured vehicles: K1, K2, K21 and other AFVs from Worse Korea
Article and video here: https://www.tu.no/artikler/loddtrekning-avgjorde-forste-del-av-stridsvognkonkurransen/516865
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Laser Shark got a reaction from Alzoc in Kimchi armoured vehicles: K1, K2, K21 and other AFVs from Worse Korea
Article and video here: https://www.tu.no/artikler/loddtrekning-avgjorde-forste-del-av-stridsvognkonkurransen/516865
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Laser Shark got a reaction from Laviduce in Kimchi armoured vehicles: K1, K2, K21 and other AFVs from Worse Korea
Article and video here: https://www.tu.no/artikler/loddtrekning-avgjorde-forste-del-av-stridsvognkonkurransen/516865
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Laser Shark got a reaction from Rico in Kimchi armoured vehicles: K1, K2, K21 and other AFVs from Worse Korea
Article and video here: https://www.tu.no/artikler/loddtrekning-avgjorde-forste-del-av-stridsvognkonkurransen/516865
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Laser Shark reacted to 2805662 in Britons are in trouble
A little more on the armour package “Epsom” for CR3:
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Laser Shark reacted to Cleb in Kimchi armoured vehicles: K1, K2, K21 and other AFVs from Worse Korea
A video showing the upgrade and refurbishment process of the K9/K9A1
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Laser Shark got a reaction from Ramlaen in Kimchi armoured vehicles: K1, K2, K21 and other AFVs from Worse Korea
One with Trophy, one without:
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Laser Shark got a reaction from David Moyes in The Leopard 2 Thread
Okay, so here’s the explanation from the news site that first reported on this:
“The explanation, as we have understood it, is that the carrier had applied for a dispensation of 95 tonnes ( as is well known, 100 tonnes is the limit for a much more advanced device around transport).
The vehicle combination was measured at 102 tonnes, which is only 7 tonnes over. The reason for the extra 8 tonnes over legal, ie a total of 15 tonnes, is that the ratio between weight of truck and trailer has been exceeded.”
https://www.tungt.no/article/view/829425/en_tanks_til_besvaer_noen_forklaringer?ref=rss
I guess I was half right. It was actually a bit of both.
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Laser Shark got a reaction from SH_MM in The Leopard 2 Thread
I suspect it was considered too heavy with this particular type of transporter, seeing as they were able to pick it up with another transporter afterwards. This could mean that the transporter + cargo exceeded the 100 tonnes dispensation limit that applies to certain parts of the Norwegian road network or it could mean that the transporter itself didn’t meet the specific requirements to be granted such a dispensation. The latter seems more likely to me since a Norwegian Army Scania transporterr carrying a Leo 2A4NO apparently weighs 85 tonnes, and this doesn’t look like it should weigh 30 tonnes more than that.
Anywhere here is an interesting article about the subject (not this case specifically, but the issues that come with increasingly heavy AFVs as well as solutions) for those who are willing to make due with a translator.
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