Zadlo Posted November 23, 2020 Report Share Posted November 23, 2020 I'm interested how good K21 would be as a torch in engagements against North Korean armour with such a lot composites in a structure. Serge and Clan_Ghost_Bear 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cleb Posted November 25, 2020 Report Share Posted November 25, 2020 (edited) A ROK T-80U from a photo shoot in the late 90s or thereabouts. This tank is still in it's as delivered camo pattern and not the now more commonly seen ROK-style MERDC camo that you see most ROK AFVs, including the T-80Us and BMP-3s using. Spoiler Edited November 25, 2020 by Cleb Adjusted wording since it is a single T-80U and not multiple Clan_Ghost_Bear 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cleb Posted November 26, 2020 Report Share Posted November 26, 2020 Some more ROK T-80Us. These screencaps were taken from a video of a training exercise at the Korea Combat Training Center. The T-80Us are being used as OPFOR (North Korean) Armor. Spoiler During this training you also had K1E1s being used as BLUFOR. Spoiler Scolopax 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kal Posted November 26, 2020 Report Share Posted November 26, 2020 On 11/24/2020 at 1:21 AM, Zadlo said: I'm interested how good K21 would be as a torch in engagements against North Korean armour with such a lot composites in a structure. DEFENSE STUDIES: Flaws in K21 Design Confirmed (defense-studies.blogspot.com) point is, K21 is meant to swim, so it can't be that heavily protected. presumably good sensors and great firepower should be +ve north and south korea is an artillary location, other kinetic threats are of a less prioritised nature. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cleb Posted November 26, 2020 Report Share Posted November 26, 2020 According to most on the Korean side of the internet, the K21 is resistant to 30mm APDS from the front and 14.5mm AP at the sides and rear. If this is true or not I don't know but there is footage of one of the ROK BMP-3s firing an unidentified type of AP ammo at a K21 target (https://gfycat.com/PowerlessNaiveCowrie). The 14.5mm AP could also make sense due to the very wide usage of 14.5mm HMGs that the North Koreans use though I haven't seen any sort of solid evidence for me to say with certainty that this protection level is true. There also has been research done to up the protection levels of the K21s though including additional composite armor blocks (Ceramics and NERA) and net armor though it usually comes at the cost of the amphibious capability the K21 has. Scolopax 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heretic88 Posted November 26, 2020 Report Share Posted November 26, 2020 3 hours ago, Cleb said: If this is true or not I don't know but there is footage of one of the ROK BMP-3s firing an unidentified type of AP ammo at a K21 target I guess it is nothing more than good old 3UBR6 APBC. Basically, .50 SLAP equivalent, it is so bad in terms of penetration. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cleb Posted November 26, 2020 Report Share Posted November 26, 2020 2 hours ago, heretic88 said: I guess it is nothing more than good old 3UBR6 APBC. Basically, .50 SLAP equivalent, it is so bad in terms of penetration. That's my thought as well. Figured it was worth noting nonetheless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cleb Posted November 27, 2020 Report Share Posted November 27, 2020 A K153C dual AT-1K Raybolt ATGM carrier apart of the 11th Mechanized Division that was at a VIP Demonstration during DX Korea 2020 which happened a week ago. Spoiler LoooSeR, Lord_James and Beer 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zadlo Posted November 27, 2020 Author Report Share Posted November 27, 2020 On 11/26/2020 at 12:41 PM, Kal said: point is, K21 is meant to swim, so it can't be that heavily protected. K21 has very heavy turret. Fire support version with XC-8 105HP turret is 600 to 1000 kg lighter than basic IFV. That's why they had to use composites in the structure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kal Posted November 28, 2020 Report Share Posted November 28, 2020 40mm autocannon, amphibious, presumably includes 8 dismounts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cleb Posted November 28, 2020 Report Share Posted November 28, 2020 ROK UGVs that are being tested Hyundai Rotem Sherpa Hanwha Defense UGV LoooSeR and Lord_James 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cleb Posted November 29, 2020 Report Share Posted November 29, 2020 K105A1s of the 11th Mechanized Division during the same event during DX Korea 2020 as the K153C that I posted earlier. Spoiler Beer 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cleb Posted December 1, 2020 Report Share Posted December 1, 2020 K-SAMs of the 1st Air Defense Brigade, Capital Defense Command recently conducted their annual live fire training. Spoiler Scolopax 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cleb Posted December 3, 2020 Report Share Posted December 3, 2020 A K1 being repaired by a 6th Infantry Division maintenance team Spoiler Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cleb Posted December 4, 2020 Report Share Posted December 4, 2020 (edited) Something that's fairly old (2009) but is interesting nonetheless. South Korea messed around with a camo system similar to that of the Saab Barracuda on the XK2 and K9 though I have only seen one picture of it mounted on the former that isn't a scale model. Not entirely sure what happened to the program though it's probably safe to assume it was quietly shelved. Spoiler Edited December 4, 2020 by Cleb Fixed image links Beer, Zyklon, Clan_Ghost_Bear and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beer Posted December 4, 2020 Report Share Posted December 4, 2020 The pics don't work. Cleb and Lord_James 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cleb Posted December 4, 2020 Report Share Posted December 4, 2020 Oh sorry about that. They should work now. Lord_James and Beer 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cleb Posted December 5, 2020 Report Share Posted December 5, 2020 XK21 STM (Structural Test Model) Spoiler Stimpy75 and Beer 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cleb Posted December 7, 2020 Report Share Posted December 7, 2020 (edited) K1 test vehicle equipped with a muffler system to reduce sound. This prototype configuration was tested around 2006. Spoiler K1s of the Army Armor School using a setup derived from the prototype. Spoiler Edited December 7, 2020 by Cleb Slight correction on the picture caption Beer, Scolopax, Lord_James and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heretic88 Posted December 7, 2020 Report Share Posted December 7, 2020 19 hours ago, Cleb said: K1 test vehicle equipped with a muffler system to reduce sound. This is idiotic... Never put a muffler on a good sounding diesel! Never! Cleb 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramlaen Posted December 7, 2020 Report Share Posted December 7, 2020 21 hours ago, Cleb said: K1 test vehicle equipped with a muffler system to reduce sound. This prototype configuration was tested around 2006. Reveal hidden contents K1s of the Army Armor School using a setup derived from the prototype. Hide contents Honey does this make my butt look big? Cleb 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cleb Posted December 8, 2020 Report Share Posted December 8, 2020 Just as a sort of continuation from the K1 mufflers, here is a K2 with a similar muffler system. I can't find the rest of the pictures from this event, none have turned up when I looked. Regardless it may have been a one off for testing or maybe even more specific for this event that the picture was taken with considerations for the noise being taken into account. Laviduce, Ramlaen and Beer 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cleb Posted December 10, 2020 Report Share Posted December 10, 2020 Going back a bit to something that Scolopax posted on February the 10th in the General AFV Thread. This image was posted with a question being asked as to when it was taken One of the captions on a photo that I have from that event (using machine translators) says something along the lines of "On June 19th, 1997, tank units of the Capital Defense Command conduct a tactical training exercise at the Yongmunsan General Training Center in preparation against any provocation from the enemy." (Some more photos from this event) Spoiler Scolopax and Beer 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cleb Posted December 11, 2020 Report Share Posted December 11, 2020 The M48 "Tow Tank". In the video these screenshots are from, this M48 is used to tow around K1s at the Army Consolidated Maintenance Depot. (https://youtu.be/x0Ei5hdaLOw) Spoiler Laviduce, Clan_Ghost_Bear and Beer 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MRose Posted December 11, 2020 Report Share Posted December 11, 2020 It was a RFI. https://www.janes.com/defence-news/news-detail/rafael-offers-its-next-gen-combat-vehicle-suite-to-south-korea Cleb 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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