delfosisyu Posted December 20, 2018 Report Share Posted December 20, 2018 6 I found a series of images describing development history of K1 88-Tank at some blog. But the post didn't note on its original source. Would you please help me out to find out the name of the book? Clan_Ghost_Bear and FORMATOSE 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laviduce Posted December 20, 2018 Report Share Posted December 20, 2018 These pages are from M1 ABRAMS in action - by Jim Mesko, Don Greer, Perry Manley - Armor No. 26 - Squadron/Signal Publications, Inc. -1989 (ISBN 0-89747-222-5). I do have the .pdf file. delfosisyu and FORMATOSE 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord_James Posted December 20, 2018 Report Share Posted December 20, 2018 So are you going to post the pdf, or just tease us? CrappyHead and FORMATOSE 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laviduce Posted December 20, 2018 Report Share Posted December 20, 2018 14 minutes ago, Lord_James said: So are you going to post the pdf, or just tease us? When it comes to information I am not one to really tease. Where can i upload the pdf file to, to share it ? I have a couple of other pdfs that might be of interest to some. FORMATOSE and delfosisyu 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FORMATOSE Posted December 23, 2018 Report Share Posted December 23, 2018 On 12/20/2018 at 6:45 PM, Laviduce said: When it comes to information I am not one to really tease. Where can i upload the pdf file to, to share it ? I have a couple of other pdfs that might be of interest to some. https://www.docdroid.net/ Laviduce 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laviduce Posted December 24, 2018 Report Share Posted December 24, 2018 12 hours ago, Sovngard said: https://www.docdroid.net/ Thank you very much Sovngard ! Here is the file (hopefully): https://docdro.id/zvIkXJz N-L-M, Volkswagen and Lord_James 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N-L-M Posted December 24, 2018 Report Share Posted December 24, 2018 5 hours ago, Laviduce said: Here is the file (hopefully): Link works, thanks! Laviduce 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord_James Posted December 24, 2018 Report Share Posted December 24, 2018 This is very nice, if not a little dated. I’m gonna have fun reading this! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walter_Sobchak Posted December 24, 2018 Report Share Posted December 24, 2018 On 12/20/2018 at 3:53 AM, delfosisyu said: 6 Not to be fussy or anything, but there are some errors in this text. It should read "AVCR-1790 diesel engine, not "AVCT-1790." AVCR stands for Aircooled, variable compression piston. Also, where it says "AVCT-1790", it should say "AVDS-1790". AVDS stands for Air-cooled Vee configuration Diesel Supercharged. Also, while I know about the Teledyne Continental "Super M60" program, I have never heard of the "General Dynamics High Performance M60 MBT project." General Dynamics had zero interest in upgrading the M60 and really disliked the fact that Teledyne Continental had created the Super-60 because it was considered unwelcome competition to General Dynamics Abrams tank in the time period addressed in the book. Anyhow, the AVCR-1790 took the variable compression ratio technology developed for the ill fated AVCR-1360 engine of the MBT-70 and General Motors rejected XM-1 prototype and applied it to the older AVDS-1790 engine of the M60 series. The introduction of VCR to the 1790 got the engine up to 1200 HP, although from what I understand, the prototype suffered a pretty serious failure during testing in South Korea. Teledyne abandoned the AVCR-1790, replacing it with the AVDS-1790-9, which achieved 1200HP by introducing aftercoolers to the turbochargers with conventional pistons. Incidentally, Teledyne Continental promotional materials for the Super M60 list either engine, depending on what date they were published. The AVDS-1790-9 would go on to see service in the Israeli Merkava III and the Namer APC. Collimatrix 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord_James Posted December 25, 2018 Report Share Posted December 25, 2018 1 hour ago, Walter_Sobchak said: Not to be fussy or anything, but there are some errors in this text. It should read "AVCR-1790 diesel engine, not "AVCT-1790." AVCR stands for Aircooled, variable compression piston. Also, where it says "AVCT-1790", it should say "AVDS-1790". AVDS stands for Air-cooled Vee configuration Diesel Supercharged. Also, while I know about the Teledyne Continental "Super M60" program, I have never heard of the "General Dynamics High Performance M60 MBT project." General Dynamics had zero interest in upgrading the M60 and really disliked the fact that Teledyne Continental had created the Super-60 because it was considered unwelcome competition to General Dynamics Abrams tank in the time period addressed in the book. Anyhow, the AVCR-1790 took the variable compression ratio technology developed for the ill fated AVCR-1360 engine of the MBT-70 and General Motors rejected XM-1 prototype and applied it to the older AVDS-1790 engine of the M60 series. The introduction of VCR to the 1790 got the engine up to 1200 HP, although from what I understand, the prototype suffered a pretty serious failure during testing in South Korea. Teledyne abandoned the AVCR-1790, replacing it with the AVDS-1790-9, which achieved 1200HP by introducing aftercoolers to the turbochargers with conventional pistons. Incidentally, Teledyne Continental promotional materials for the Super M60 list either engine, depending on what date they were published. The AVDS-1790-9 would go on to see service in the Israeli Merkava III and the Namer APC. It does say this was published 1989, so the info might not have been available at that time? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walter_Sobchak Posted December 25, 2018 Report Share Posted December 25, 2018 3 hours ago, Lord_James said: It does say this was published 1989, so the info might not have been available at that time? It was, they just made some mistakes. The Teledyne Continental engine nomenclature was widely known at that point. Heck, the basic AVDS-1790 went into service in 1960. Hunnicutt's book on the Patton series of tanks was published in 1984, so they really don't have an excuse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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