LoooSeR Posted September 3, 2015 Report Share Posted September 3, 2015 With those missiles: Belesarius 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sturgeon Posted September 3, 2015 Report Share Posted September 3, 2015 Don't think I didn't notice how effortlessly you turned the "Bash the PAK-FA Thread" into the "PAK-FA Porn Thread", LoooSeR. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoooSeR Posted September 3, 2015 Report Share Posted September 3, 2015 Don't think I didn't notice how effortlessly you turned the "Bash the PAK-FA Thread" into the "PAK-FA Porn Thread", LoooSeR. My Putinsallary is reflective of my Putintrolls skillzz Mike E 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoooSeR Posted September 6, 2015 Report Share Posted September 6, 2015 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoooSeR Posted September 8, 2015 Report Share Posted September 8, 2015 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoooSeR Posted September 9, 2015 Report Share Posted September 9, 2015 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mohamed A Posted September 9, 2015 Report Share Posted September 9, 2015 CONTROL SURFACES Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoooSeR Posted September 14, 2015 Report Share Posted September 14, 2015 Belesarius 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoooSeR Posted September 15, 2015 Report Share Posted September 15, 2015 Belesarius and Sturgeon 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scolopax Posted September 15, 2015 Report Share Posted September 15, 2015 Well at least it says photoshop several times in the picture. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoooSeR Posted September 17, 2015 Report Share Posted September 17, 2015 Belesarius 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tied Posted September 21, 2015 Author Report Share Posted September 21, 2015 WT has 4chan argue for them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperComrade Posted September 21, 2015 Report Share Posted September 21, 2015 Yes, India is instead going to field a completely indigenous 5th generation fighter called Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tied Posted September 21, 2015 Author Report Share Posted September 21, 2015 My favorite part is how they talk about the Eurofighter and Rafale being top shit, and happen to forget they are as 4th fucking gen as the Su-35 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sturgeon Posted September 21, 2015 Report Share Posted September 21, 2015 ...Precisely why couldn't Russia skip 5th Gen fighter development? It's not like that has never happened before. They basically skipped 1st gen jet development, for example. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperComrade Posted September 21, 2015 Report Share Posted September 21, 2015 They didn't, really (Yak-15, MiG-9) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LostCosmonaut Posted September 21, 2015 Report Share Posted September 21, 2015 I dunno, the MiG-9 and Yak-15 seem pretty first gen. (1.5 gen?) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperComrade Posted September 21, 2015 Report Share Posted September 21, 2015 The Yak-15 is a Yak-3 with a jet engine stuck in it, it doesn't get much more basic than that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Collimatrix Posted September 22, 2015 Report Share Posted September 22, 2015 For anyone looking to modernize their armed forces, now is the time to buy Russian weapons. The ruble is undervalued and their manufacturers have excess production capacity and inventory of the current-gen stuff as they look to make room for the next-gen equipment. Mike E 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xthetenth Posted September 22, 2015 Report Share Posted September 22, 2015 ...Precisely why couldn't Russia skip 5th Gen fighter development? It's not like that has never happened before. They basically skipped 1st gen jet development, for example. Last I checked the genotypical second gen was afterburning and carried a radar and missiles. The jump to second gen was the jump from the MiG-15 to the MiG-17, and the jump to supersonic fighters especially couldn't have been done easily at all without working with the preceding jets. If you meant going from straight to swept wings, those were two things that could be researched and assembled separately. Similarly, making the jump from 4th to 6th would be pretty hard without getting the experience working with 5th generation tech. (Also Tied, part of the 5th/4th generation divide has been codified by LockMart, so take that as you will with regards to Eurocanards' capabilities). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sturgeon Posted September 22, 2015 Report Share Posted September 22, 2015 Erm, lumping things like the P-59 and Schwalbe in with the F-86 seems decidedly silly to me. Dragonstriker 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xthetenth Posted September 23, 2015 Report Share Posted September 23, 2015 On the other hand it's a bit weird to discuss just strapping swept wings on planes as a full generational leap. They're still gunfighters with a totally minimal avionics fit even if there's a significant performance boost. I'd imagine something like a late model F-15 up against an F-14A would be a similar mismatch in most any conditions (I'll refrain from making fun of the early model F-16). Similar for the F-102 and F-106. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sturgeon Posted September 23, 2015 Report Share Posted September 23, 2015 On the other hand it's a bit weird to discuss just strapping swept wings on planes as a full generational leap. They're still gunfighters with a totally minimal avionics fit even if there's a significant performance boost. I'd imagine something like a late model F-15 up against an F-14A would be a similar mismatch in most any conditions (I'll refrain from making fun of the early model F-16). Similar for the F-102 and F-106. The gap between a P-59 and an F-86 is way, way bigger than just swept wings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mohamed A Posted September 24, 2015 Report Share Posted September 24, 2015 No love for He-280 ;-; (damn you Willy for fucking up the project) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xthetenth Posted September 24, 2015 Report Share Posted September 24, 2015 The gap between a P-59 and an F-86 is way, way bigger than just swept wings. The gap between the FJ-1 and an F-86 is really pretty much that though. Same for an F9F and F9F-6, for example. I wouldn't say it's a bigger gap than between an early and late 4th gen fighter, for example. In each case, the late planes will run roughshod over the early ones, but they're still in the same ballpark for design priorities and technologies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.