FORMATOSE Posted November 29, 2020 Report Share Posted November 29, 2020 What could it be ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gun Ready Posted November 29, 2020 Report Share Posted November 29, 2020 In my opinion it is a very bad scaled model of a Leopard 1 with casted turret, not showing the TEM2A rangefinder flaps. Instead of the rubber track skirts ERA shaped skirts are attached. One row, not separated, no track work possible. For me it seems to be a quick and dirty design study only. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord_James Posted November 29, 2020 Report Share Posted November 29, 2020 11 hours ago, Sovngard said: What could it be ? A paper mache leopard 1? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FORMATOSE Posted November 30, 2020 Report Share Posted November 30, 2020 On 11/29/2020 at 5:50 PM, Gun Ready said: In my opinion it is a very bad scaled model of a Leopard 1 20 hours ago, Lord_James said: A paper mache leopard 1? I expressed myself poorly, I was referring to the unknown model of ERA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord_James Posted December 1, 2020 Report Share Posted December 1, 2020 5 hours ago, Sovngard said: I expressed myself poorly, I was referring to the unknown model of ERA. I was having a joke But honestly, wouldn’t know. It looks a little like the blazer fitted to the M60s during desert storm, with its very square shape and the way it appears to be mounted, but the side skirts look strange for ERA, more like the sides on the AAVP7A1 or the “razor blade” armor on the T-72 Shafrah’s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SH_MM Posted December 16, 2020 Report Share Posted December 16, 2020 Lord_James 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord_James Posted December 18, 2020 Report Share Posted December 18, 2020 On 12/16/2020 at 2:32 PM, SH_MM said: Images are broken for me. Anyone else have that problem? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N-L-M Posted December 18, 2020 Report Share Posted December 18, 2020 They dont allow hotlinking, but they will open in a new tab. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SH_MM Posted December 18, 2020 Report Share Posted December 18, 2020 7 hours ago, Lord_James said: Images are broken for me. Anyone else have that problem? fixed. Lord_James and Alzoc 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SH_MM Posted February 4, 2021 Report Share Posted February 4, 2021 Possibly related to the ERA from Dynamit Nobel Defence (as the company is owned by Rafael): Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SH_MM Posted March 5, 2021 Report Share Posted March 5, 2021 Serge 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Alzoc Posted March 5, 2021 Report Share Posted March 5, 2021 1 hour ago, Willy Brandt said: So DND does the ERA for the Leclerc? Also for the French Army Leclercs? Or only for the export ones? It was only used on Emirati's Leclerc, French army version never used ERA to my knowledge : Spoiler The urban fighting kit Azur, used by the French and Emirati armies, doesn't use ERA but composite skirts (likely NERA) combined with cage armor : Spoiler As far as I know, the only time GIAT/Nexter proposed ERA for the Leclerc was for the "Leclerc 2015" project, and only on the turret roof to protect the tank against top attack in combination with 4 hard-kill launchers placed at the corners of the turret : Spoiler It never went anywhere Lord_James 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Nir Posted March 26, 2021 Report Share Posted March 26, 2021 Photos of Rafael's ASPRO-KE armor module. Said to have gone through hundreds of tests to prove efficiency and no collateral damage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timothy Yan Posted April 21, 2021 Report Share Posted April 21, 2021 Is there any point in using ceramic or HHA plates in ERA? Just lets say money is no problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Collimatrix Posted April 22, 2021 Author Report Share Posted April 22, 2021 3 hours ago, Timothy Yan said: Is there any point in using ceramic or HHA plates in ERA? Just lets say money is no problem. Paul Hazell has a patent on ERA that uses a ceramic flyer plate which fragments shortly after interacting with the jet or penetrator, with the idea being that it reduces collateral damage. Other than that, I am not sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Collimatrix Posted August 11, 2021 Author Report Share Posted August 11, 2021 Interesting patent here for D-shaped ERA blocks from South Korea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord_James Posted August 11, 2021 Report Share Posted August 11, 2021 2 hours ago, Collimatrix said: Interesting patent here for D-shaped ERA blocks from South Korea. Interesting that it’s mounted on the curved side, with the flat side facing the projectile. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SH_MM Posted March 2, 2022 Report Share Posted March 2, 2022 T-72B3's turret side ERA, in front of the seat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiedzmin Posted April 25, 2022 Report Share Posted April 25, 2022 finnish tests with K-1 Lord_James 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiedzmin Posted June 7, 2022 Report Share Posted June 7, 2022 @SH_MM https://drive.google.com/file/d/1nLSVAhNL-6RWqrKljutWH5mJ1K3RMv5s/view?usp=sharing 1976-79 german ERA trials Gun Ready, SH_MM and TWMSR 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SH_MM Posted June 7, 2022 Report Share Posted June 7, 2022 Thanks for sharing @Wiedzmin. The document is a great find! Most of it is about ERA, but there are also tests of NERA and of passive armor using ceramics (boron carbide). But IMO the biggest reveal is the usage of UHU Plus glue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiedzmin Posted June 7, 2022 Report Share Posted June 7, 2022 6 minutes ago, SH_MM said: Most of it is about ERA, but there are also tests of NERA and of passive armor using ceramics (boron carbide). But IMO the biggest reveal is the usage of UHU possible to translate ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SH_MM Posted June 7, 2022 Report Share Posted June 7, 2022 Yes, but that will take time - depending on how much other stuff I have to do (and how much motiviation I have). Might take a few weeks, so I'll probably upload it in several parts. Wiedzmin 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SH_MM Posted June 8, 2022 Report Share Posted June 8, 2022 Takes a bit longer than expected. @Wiedzmin, here is the first part. I started with the oldest report, which comes third in the document. At the moment I have only translated the first chapter, further articles will follow for the other chapters and then for the other reports. https://below-the-turret-ring.com/history/german-experimental-armor-development-part-i-target-arrays-for-trial-program-16-21-and-22/ This is also the only report containing performance data (though it is still limited), the other reports only mention that the performance data can be found at other places. In general the report "Bericht über die Erprobungspogramme 16, 21 und 22, durchgeführt in der Zeit vom 9.05 bis 13.05.1977 und vom 14.11 bis 18.11.1977 bei der Erprobungsstelle 91 der Bundeswehr in Meppen; B – TU 1911/00" covers three different test arrays. Two of them were used for tests against 105 mm KE/38 APFSDS rounds. This version of German ERA relied on an external ignition system, as the used explosive material (Dottikon) did not detonate by itself when hit. TWMSR and Wiedzmin 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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