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Sturgeon Posted January 2, 2017 Report Share Posted January 2, 2017 I have tried to figure out what this bird is, but so far I've failed. All I know is that it is a Navy bird, and was apparently a project at PAX. Any ideas? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sturgeon Posted January 2, 2017 Report Share Posted January 2, 2017 My best guess is a late Vought proposal, but I've got nothing on that hunch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belesarius Posted January 2, 2017 Report Share Posted January 2, 2017 I've seen it before... the lines look familiar. No idea where tho. Two seater? Maybe a training bird? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sturgeon Posted January 3, 2017 Report Share Posted January 3, 2017 Yeah, it feels familiar to me too, which is what's killing me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zyklon Posted January 3, 2017 Report Share Posted January 3, 2017 Saab J-35 Ö Mk.II Draken Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeeps_Guns_Tanks Posted January 3, 2017 Report Share Posted January 3, 2017 A flying prostitute. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belesarius Posted January 3, 2017 Report Share Posted January 3, 2017 Indian Su-30MKI over Burj Al Arab, Dubai.By Katsuhiko Tokunaga Bronezhilet 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Belesarius Posted January 3, 2017 Report Share Posted January 3, 2017 Hey neat! Never seen this before. a 6 gun experimental remote chin turret for the B-17G. "Experimental 6-barrel tower remotely-controlled turret on b-17G, tail number 42-31435 SU-S, “WEST END” , flying in the composition of the 384 bomb group, U.S. air force, 1944." A little more on this, from http://forum.armyairforces.com/threads/b-17g-42-31435.181/ : Didn't think to check the Freeman/Osborne collaboration, thanks for the idea. On page 44 and 45 of The B-17 Flying Fortress Story is a photo of the 6 gun nose turret. Caption says: "Another in-the-field generated gun arrangement was the 384th BG's fixed battery of .50 calibre weapons under the nose of B-17G 42-31435. This battery, fired by the pilot, was devised to meet mass head-on attack. It was installed when this aircraft had to have major nose repairs following an accident. It was flown operationally for a few sorties in early July 1944, but there was no opportunity to use the guns prior to a crash landing in the UK." The caption is credited to a George Sheehan. According to the 384th web site Sheehan was a Sergeant in the 544th SQ. The mission list for this a/c shows a gap from May 11 to June 6 which possibly could be when this conversion took place. http://photos.384thbombgroup.com/index.php?/category/G42-31435 "This B-17G was fitted with an experimental chin turret armed with 6 fixed .50 cal. machine guns, designed by Armaments Officer Mike Mazer. It crashed returning from a bombing mission on July 6, 1944." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LostCosmonaut Posted January 3, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 3, 2017 My best guess is a late Vought proposal, but I've got nothing on that hunch. According to SA it's a model of the Vought Deep Strike 2 concept from the late 1960s. Belesarius, Zyklon, Sturgeon and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sturgeon Posted January 3, 2017 Report Share Posted January 3, 2017 Oh wow. Neat! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Collimatrix Posted January 4, 2017 Report Share Posted January 4, 2017 An ME-262 goes down to the .50 caliber guns of a USAAC P-51. This particular view of the schwalbe dispels one of the persistent myths about the aircraft. The ME-262 did not have swept wings; at least, not swept enough to produce a meaningful reduction in transonic drag. Under ideal circumstances the increase in Mcrit will be proportional to the inverse cosine of the angle of the wing's sweep. At a mere 18.5 degrees of sweep, the wings of the ME-262 would have around a 5% increase in Mcrit, and in reality the effect would be less than that due to the fact that wings are not infinitely long. So the reduction of transonic drag due to the sweep of the ME-262's wings was negligible. In practice, wing sweep angles of less than 30 degrees have no significant impact on transonic drag effects. The wings of the ME-262 were swept in order to move the center of lift of the plane back behind the center of gravity. Because the ME-262 was jet powered and lacked a heavy piston engine in the nose, its center of gravity was further back than usual. It was easier for the designers to sweep the wings to move the center of lift than it was for them to completely re-design the wing root structure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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