Alex C. Posted April 15, 2016 Report Share Posted April 15, 2016 Lee Enfields are chambered in a hard to find caliber in rural areas, are too long and heavy (yes, I know there were carbines), have no comfy recoil pad, and have no muzzle brake. For the same price I can get a Madsen in glorious 30-06. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brick Fight Posted April 15, 2016 Report Share Posted April 15, 2016 I also feel a little less bad about dinging up a Mosin carbine than my 1917 Enfield. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meplat Posted April 15, 2016 Report Share Posted April 15, 2016 Lee Enfields are chambered in a hard to find caliber in rural areas, are too long and heavy (yes, I know there were carbines), have no comfy recoil pad, and have no muzzle brake. For the same price I can get a Madsen in glorious 30-06. Even so, .303" is one of the most user-friendly handload calibers out there. I suspect you could fill a case with match-heads and top it with a bit of fishing-sinker, and it'd reliably take game. Also- I found 7.7mm Arisaka. In Paducah. I also feel a little less bad about dinging up a Mosin carbine than my 1917 Enfield. Meanwhile I'm daily carrying an early second gen CZ75.. They are meant to be used and admired in their use, not coddled behind glass in a padded rest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sturgeon Posted April 15, 2016 Report Share Posted April 15, 2016 I second the No. 4. Whether you can find .303 seems to depend on where you're at. And the idea that No. 4s aren't handy enough I find a little odd. They're not, like, the most handy rifle, but they sure beat like a 1917. I dunno, I've done plenty of running around with a No. 4. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khand-e Posted April 15, 2016 Author Report Share Posted April 15, 2016 At one time my "truck gun" was a L1A1. I thought you carried 6 M60s/PKMs on a hextuple chest holster as your disguised UPS truck guns like stated earlier? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donward Posted April 15, 2016 Report Share Posted April 15, 2016 At one time my "truck gun" was a L1A1. I think that rifle would cost more than my entire Toyota truck. While my Winchester Model 94 Ranger 30-30 has a great deal of sentimental value, it is a $250-$300 gun. Lee Enfields are chambered in a hard to find caliber in rural areas, are too long and heavy (yes, I know there were carbines), have no comfy recoil pad, and have no muzzle brake. For the same price I can get a Madsen in glorious 30-06. I took my Made in the year 1918 SMLE up to Alaska one of my trips as our dedicated bear gun and I almost had a chance to see what the .303 would do to an obnoxious three-year old brown bear that had come back twice to rob stuff off the porch of our cabin. Fortunately winging a 180 grain projectile 12 inches over his right ear at 2,500 feet per second was enough to dissuade it returning a third time. On the other hand that thing is HEAVY. I also feel a little less bad about dinging up a Mosin carbine than my 1917 Enfield. I think the essence of a "truck gun" is something that the user feels is inexpensive enough to be dinged around and used while not too expensive that it would be a genuine financial catastrophe if anything ever happened to it. This varies from person to person of course depending on their circumstances. But the essential "truck gun" should certainly not cost much more than $500. Even so, .303" is one of the most user-friendly handload calibers out there. I suspect you could fill a case with match-heads and top it with a bit of fishing-sinker, and it'd reliably take game. Also- I found 7.7mm Arisaka. In Paducah. Meanwhile I'm daily carrying an early second gen CZ75.. They are meant to be used and admired in their use, not coddled behind glass in a padded rest. I'm able to find .303 British even in our local small town Ace Hardware store. It's not that unusual of a round. I second the No. 4. Whether you can find .303 seems to depend on where you're at. And the idea that No. 4s aren't handy enough I find a little odd. They're not, like, the most handy rifle, but they sure beat like a 1917. I dunno, I've done plenty of running around with a No. 4. I think a handiness scale of military rifles ranging from M1 Carbine to 1917 Enfield is in order. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khand-e Posted April 15, 2016 Author Report Share Posted April 15, 2016 All of you and your fancy trucks while we have 2 sedans in our household that can even use a gun and rightfully call it a truck gun! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donward Posted April 15, 2016 Report Share Posted April 15, 2016 I think a "Mercedes gun" Mech is probably some Euro sub-machine gun or machine pistol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeeps_Guns_Tanks Posted April 15, 2016 Report Share Posted April 15, 2016 I think a "Mercedes gun" Mech is probably some Euro sub-machine gun or machine pistol. Something from H&K for sure! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khand-e Posted April 15, 2016 Author Report Share Posted April 15, 2016 Something from H&K for sure! Jeeps_Guns_Tanks 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donward Posted April 15, 2016 Report Share Posted April 15, 2016 Something from H&K for sure! Hehe. Jeeps_Guns_Tanks 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex C. Posted April 15, 2016 Report Share Posted April 15, 2016 Submit yourself to greatness. No finer small arms exist. Look into your heart. You know this to be true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sturgeon Posted April 15, 2016 Report Share Posted April 15, 2016 Submit yourself to greatness. No finer small arms exist. Look into your heart. You know this to be true. Indeed. I can think of no finer industrial-grade paperweight than an HK53. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sturgeon Posted April 15, 2016 Report Share Posted April 15, 2016 This was a brilliant video by the guys at inrange: Yeah, and since we were talking about truck guns, one of the best "domestic"-looking ones is the M1 Garand. I'd also throw in the MAS-49, except it's just a little more "assault-rifle"-y looking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sturgeon Posted April 15, 2016 Report Share Posted April 15, 2016 The quality Century is known for: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sturgeon Posted April 15, 2016 Report Share Posted April 15, 2016 Also, for the record, I met Rob at SHOT Show 16, and he's a really nice guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donward Posted April 15, 2016 Report Share Posted April 15, 2016 Since having a loaded rifle in your vehicle is verboten in my state - and others - have a clip or magazine fed "truck gun" is an advantage of sorts over my dear anachronistic lever guns or other weapons with tubular magazines. Not that it takes that long to load a pump shotgun or slide six rounds into a Winchester. But still, when seconds count. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brick Fight Posted April 15, 2016 Report Share Posted April 15, 2016 All of you and your fancy trucks while we have 2 sedans in our household that can even use a gun and rightfully call it a truck gun! '98 Volvo V70 gun doesn't have the same ring. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sturgeon Posted April 15, 2016 Report Share Posted April 15, 2016 By that standard, by "truck" gun is a Glock 19. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khand-e Posted April 15, 2016 Author Report Share Posted April 15, 2016 I have to use the hidden rifle compartments in the back seats. I don't get it, if you're escorting someone and you need your rifle, how do you get to them? throw their asses to the floor? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoooSeR Posted April 15, 2016 Report Share Posted April 15, 2016 Russian snipers. 2 first are FSB, 3rd and 4th are from Syria. What is this rifle? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex C. Posted April 15, 2016 Report Share Posted April 15, 2016 Indeed. I can think of no finer industrial-grade paperweight than an HK53. Say what you will, but those things run like a scalded ape. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sturgeon Posted April 15, 2016 Report Share Posted April 15, 2016 Say what you will, but those things run like a scalded ape. My experience has been mixed, actually. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex C. Posted April 15, 2016 Report Share Posted April 15, 2016 There are a lot of bad conversions out there that crumby smiths worked over. I have seen many where they didnt even use a 53 locking piece or proper carrier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sturgeon Posted April 15, 2016 Report Share Posted April 15, 2016 I heard that the Mexicans didn't have great luck with them either, though that may just be rumor. Regardless, they are heavy and worse than most other rifles in their class. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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