Meplat Posted August 23, 2015 Report Share Posted August 23, 2015 Meplat is supplying the Rebels now!? Probably one of the innumerable ones shipped over with all the LL M3 and M4's. Otherwise, that is an example of my favorite Thompson variant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tied Posted August 23, 2015 Report Share Posted August 23, 2015 the True tompson variant Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoooSeR Posted August 24, 2015 Report Share Posted August 24, 2015 Saudi Arabia forces were ambushed by Ansar Allakh, this is trophies: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khand-e Posted August 24, 2015 Author Report Share Posted August 24, 2015 So yeah, I'm genuinely considering buying a 223 or 243 WSSM rifle or some other mega gofast caliber rifle in the 5mm-6mm range. Someone please talk me out of this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoooSeR Posted August 24, 2015 Report Share Posted August 24, 2015 Very tasty document: http://twower.livejournal.com/1761114.html AK-12 and AK-12 mags patents from 2014. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Sturgeon Posted August 24, 2015 Report Share Posted August 24, 2015 So yeah, I'm genuinely considering buying a 223 or 243 WSSM rifle or some other mega gofast caliber rifle in the 5mm-6mm range. Someone please talk me out of this. They break guns and aren't useful for anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donward Posted August 24, 2015 Report Share Posted August 24, 2015 I recommend a round that was originally designed to use black powder for TEOTWAWKI. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex C. Posted August 24, 2015 Report Share Posted August 24, 2015 So we have a pretty extensive Mauser Vs. Mosin challenge video coming up soon and this is just one section of it. The Mosin is an M91/30 and the Mauser is a 1901 production Gewehr 98 made by Mauser in Oberndorf and bears an Ulm proof mark. This is just a simple rapid fire test. Keep in mind, Miles is a Marine infantryman and professional firearms instructor (who owns and likes Mosins). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-GN_F3XiCPo Sturgeon 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoooSeR Posted August 24, 2015 Report Share Posted August 24, 2015 Alex will be first to collect Tied's tiers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex C. Posted August 24, 2015 Report Share Posted August 24, 2015 I will say that we gave each gun a fair go. The most interesting part of the test (and most eye opening) was running across a field to cover while trying to hit a steel silhouette 100 meters away. Moving and shooting with a bolt action rifle is hard, but doing it while trying to be accurate is much harder. Sturgeon 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tied Posted August 24, 2015 Report Share Posted August 24, 2015 So we have a pretty extensive Mauser Vs. Mosin challenge video coming up soon and this is just one section of it. The Mosin is an M91/30 and the Mauser is a 1901 production Gewehr 98 made by Mauser in Oberndorf and bears an Ulm proof mark. This is just a simple rapid fire test. Keep in mind, Miles is a Marine infantryman and professional firearms instructor (who owns and likes Mosins). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-GN_F3XiCPo well shit, the G-98 seemed easy to shoot, but i had no idea it was THAT easy Still a member of the mosin master race, for whatever reason i seem to be more accurate with them than any bolt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sturgeon Posted August 24, 2015 Report Share Posted August 24, 2015 So we have a pretty extensive Mauser Vs. Mosin challenge video coming up soon and this is just one section of it. The Mosin is an M91/30 and the Mauser is a 1901 production Gewehr 98 made by Mauser in Oberndorf and bears an Ulm proof mark. This is just a simple rapid fire test. Keep in mind, Miles is a Marine infantryman and professional firearms instructor (who owns and likes Mosins). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-GN_F3XiCPo I knew you were biased Alex, but this is blatant even for you. Miles is clearly not using the Mosin correctly; he doesn't even have a commissar behind him yelling at him about killing fascists! For shame. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sturgeon Posted August 24, 2015 Report Share Posted August 24, 2015 Genuine questions about it1. Was that Miles' Mosin or yours? 2. I can't see his hands well, is he using the same speed shooting technique you are? 3. Looks like Miles had trouble with the clip. Do you think he just wasn't as used to stripper clip reloading or are the clips that finicky?Keep in mind, I'm only a pro-Mosin guy when it's funny. I don't even own one at this time and I probably never will again because I really don't like them that much - I do own a Mauser. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tied Posted August 24, 2015 Report Share Posted August 24, 2015 Keep in mind, I'm only a pro-Mosin guy when it's funny. I don't even own one at this time and I probably never will again because I really don't like them that much - I do own a Mauser. Im just more confortable with the mosin being that im close to 7 American feet tall and 300ish American pounds, the Mosin dosent feel uncomfortable at all, and i find them alot easier to land shots with than Mausers that and the whole Russian bias thing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sturgeon Posted August 24, 2015 Report Share Posted August 24, 2015 MAS 36 master race! RobotMinisterofTrueKorea 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex C. Posted August 24, 2015 Report Share Posted August 24, 2015 Genuine questions about it 1. Was that Miles' Mosin or yours? 2. I can't see his hands well, is he using the same speed shooting technique you are? 3. Looks like Miles had trouble with the clip. Do you think he just wasn't as used to stripper clip reloading or are the clips that finicky? Keep in mind, I'm only a pro-Mosin guy when it's funny. I don't even own one at this time and I probably never will again because I really don't like them that much - I do own a Mauser. It was my Mosin, and is a rather unremarkable M91/30. The technique I was using was not possible with the Mosin as the bolt requires significantly more leverage/strength to work. Both rifles may be cock-on-open, but the Mosins need more force to move that cocking piece. The clips on Mosins are always tricky it seems. Rimmed cartridges never seem to be as conducive to stripping as rimless ones. Miles is well acquainted with stripped clips, but I imagine the pressure of being in a little competition resulted in some careless haste. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sturgeon Posted August 25, 2015 Report Share Posted August 25, 2015 Rimmed rounds are a major obstacle, that's for sure. Every nation with a rimmed round in service tried very hard to replace it, except the Russians until WWII. Or at least, the Russian sources I have read are much less transparent about their dissatisfaction about rimmed ammunition.Hm, good point about the technique. I've never tried the ol' middle finger trick with a Mosin, come to think of it. I've done a little speed shooting with M44s before, and I usually karate chop/knife hand the bolt open and punch it closed. OK, now that I mention that it makes the Mosin sound really bad, but there's something fun about operating a bolt action entirely with your major muscle groups (except the trigger). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meplat Posted August 25, 2015 Report Share Posted August 25, 2015 You can find "slick" MN's, they just tend to be uncommon in the U.S., at least in their unmolested forms. A lot of the ones imported here are pretty mediocre examples. Just like how most of the early SKS's imported were often force matched hashups. Sturgeon 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donward Posted August 25, 2015 Report Share Posted August 25, 2015 MAS 36 master race! Meh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sturgeon Posted August 25, 2015 Report Share Posted August 25, 2015 Yeah, I've definitely seen some Mosins that were slicker than most you see. I suspect there'd be a lot fewer total dogs around, too, if folks would bother to clean the cosmo out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Collimatrix Posted August 25, 2015 Report Share Posted August 25, 2015 The first rifle I ever had that used stripper clips was an SKS. I was shocked to learn, later, that most stripper clips are much, much worse designed than them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sturgeon Posted August 25, 2015 Report Share Posted August 25, 2015 Meh. I like the MAS 36. It's a good rifle, if you accept its idiosyncrasies. Good sights, good balance, weight, bolt handling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tied Posted August 25, 2015 Report Share Posted August 25, 2015 I like the MAS 36. It's a good rifle, if you accept its idiosyncrasies. Good sights, good balance, weight, bolt handling. can it be used as a Javelin? No? didnt think so Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donward Posted August 25, 2015 Report Share Posted August 25, 2015 If you can accept a rifle with ergonomics that feels like it was made by a seventh grader with a scrap 2x4 and a dull saber saw then sure. Sights are meh. Bolt feels sand papery as metal rasps against metal. No safety. It is very utilitarian. But lags behind Springfield, Enfield, Mauser, Mosin and the much maligned Arisakas IMO along with a load of other guns. The bayonet is LOL fun. Again, we are talking military bolt guns. There isn't THAT much difference. But the recent spell of MAS 36 champ-eening amounts to a lot of gun hipster ism. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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