Sturgeon Posted August 16, 2015 Report Share Posted August 16, 2015 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2015/08/16/the-tactical-kalashnikov-the-ak-12-in-full-auto/ It have a link to this thread... T110 thread comrades will find us! Prepare for Dai stike Thanks, I thought I scrubbed it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoooSeR Posted August 16, 2015 Report Share Posted August 16, 2015 So you're saying it's now both half the parts AND half the performance of a Glock? It is half the price and 1/10th of perfomance! His unit is something else. They got a Cornershot... without a gun that can fit to it. Collimatrix 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoooSeR Posted August 16, 2015 Report Share Posted August 16, 2015 PP-2000 photos. Collimatrix 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tied Posted August 16, 2015 Report Share Posted August 16, 2015 A M-14 in 5.56 NATO would likely be a very tame beastie. Some photostudies of it functioning would be interesting. After they do that, they should of shortened the rifle, maybe replaced the materials it was made with, and give it a 30 round box magazine and some cheese graters to mount things Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meplat Posted August 16, 2015 Report Share Posted August 16, 2015 After they do that, they should of shortened the rifle, maybe replaced the materials it was made with, and give it a 30 round box magazine and some cheese graters to mount things You mean "Make a proper Mini 14"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex C. Posted August 16, 2015 Report Share Posted August 16, 2015 HK might have been pushing the envelope with this one: Sturgeon 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex C. Posted August 16, 2015 Report Share Posted August 16, 2015 Also, potato digger is always relevant: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belesarius Posted August 16, 2015 Report Share Posted August 16, 2015 Nigeria takes delivery of more Beryl Rifles. 7.62x39 version. http://www.janes.com/article/53541/more-beryl-m762-rifles-delivered-to-nigeria Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meplat Posted August 16, 2015 Report Share Posted August 16, 2015 HK might have been pushing the envelope with this one: They were pushing it with the 21, the 25 was a study in absurdity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Collimatrix Posted August 16, 2015 Report Share Posted August 16, 2015 HK might have been pushing the envelope with this one: Where did you find that? There's a tiny little blurb in Full Circle and little additional information. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belesarius Posted August 16, 2015 Report Share Posted August 16, 2015 INSAS II? Ugh http://www.janes.com/article/52818/indian-army-cancels-rifle-carbine-tenders Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tied Posted August 16, 2015 Report Share Posted August 16, 2015 You mean "Make a proper Mini 14"? was alluding to the M16 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sturgeon Posted August 16, 2015 Report Share Posted August 16, 2015 INSAS II? Ugh http://www.janes.com/article/52818/indian-army-cancels-rifle-carbine-tenders http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2015/07/02/india-scraps-assault-rifle-competition/ http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2015/07/07/india-to-adopt-indigenous-rifle-design-to-replace-troubled-insas/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toxn Posted August 16, 2015 Report Share Posted August 16, 2015 TKO? Freaking really? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/.480_Ruger'>https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/.480_Ruger Who the hell shoots this stuff? And why do so many companies seem bent on developing cartridges a person who (I'm forced to assume) could probably just club his dangerous prey to death with the gun instead? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrashbotUS Posted August 16, 2015 Report Share Posted August 16, 2015 They may have tried too hard, hence the NCO sitting there making sure they do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.E. Watters Posted August 16, 2015 Report Share Posted August 16, 2015 That is a prototype "Dual Cycle Rifle", an US Army sponsored R&D program from the the early 1970s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.E. Watters Posted August 16, 2015 Report Share Posted August 16, 2015 The US Army Small Arms Systems Agency (USASASA) introduced the Dual Cycle Rifle (DCR) concept back in 1971. The brainchild of USASASA commander Colonel Raymond S. Isenson and Technical Director Leonard R. Ambrosini, the "dual cycle" referenced a burst being fired at a very high rate while feed and extraction occurred at a fraction of that speed. Testing of the SPIW had already shown how a conventional high cyclic rate mechanism with a single chamber and barrel could be unreliable. The SALVO-era multiple barrel designs suffered from excessive weight and bulk. Fifteen companies eventually submitted proposals, and four of these were accepted for further study as paper designs. Two companies, General American Transportation Corporation (GATX) and General Electric (GE), were ultimately selected to develop firing prototypes. The winning proposals used a single barrel combined with a multiple chamber cylinder. The cylinder was fed from a box magazine holding three individual rows of cartridges. During the feed cycle, the top three rounds were simultaneously stripped into individual chambers. GE's design used an asymmetrical three-chamber cylinder while GATX's design used a symmetrical nine-chamber cylinder. By 1973, the prototypes reportedly achieved cyclic rates of ~4,500 rounds per minute in three-round bursts. The US Army's basic design was US Patent #4,102,241: http://www.google.com/patents/US4102241 General Electric was US Patent #3,788,191: http://www.google.com/patents/US3788191 I have not been able to find a DCR patent directly credited to GATX. There is a small article on the DCR in the May-June 1973 issue of Army Research & Development Magazine: http://asc.army.mil/docs/pubs/alt/archives/1973/May-Jun_1973.PDF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sturgeon Posted August 16, 2015 Report Share Posted August 16, 2015 So it's a handheld revolver cannon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Collimatrix Posted August 16, 2015 Report Share Posted August 16, 2015 Who the hell shoots this stuff? And why do so many companies seem bent on developing cartridges a person who (I'm forced to assume) could probably just club his dangerous prey to death with the gun instead? People who wander around in Alaska, mostly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.E. Watters Posted August 16, 2015 Report Share Posted August 16, 2015 So it's a handheld revolver cannon. Exactly! Sturgeon 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khand-e Posted August 17, 2015 Author Report Share Posted August 17, 2015 People who wander around in Alaska, mostly. I remember it being particularly popular with these types or just other places where dangerous or large, territorial game are common. One bonus of it is that it's rather tame in recoil compared to other rounds used for things like charging bears like the .454 Casual wrist murderer 2000. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khand-e Posted August 17, 2015 Author Report Share Posted August 17, 2015 The US Army Small Arms Systems Agency (USASASA) introduced the Dual Cycle Rifle (DCR) concept back in 1971. The brainchild of USASASA commander Colonel Raymond S. Isenson and Technical Director Leonard R. Ambrosini, the "dual cycle" referenced a burst being fired at a very high rate while feed and extraction occurred at a fraction of that speed. Testing of the SPIW had already shown how a conventional high cyclic rate mechanism with a single chamber and barrel could be unreliable. The SALVO-era multiple barrel designs suffered from excessive weight and bulk. Fifteen companies eventually submitted proposals, and four of these were accepted for further study as paper designs. Two companies, General American Transportation Corporation (GATX) and General Electric (GE), were ultimately selected to develop firing prototypes. The winning proposals used a single barrel combined with a multiple chamber cylinder. The cylinder was fed from a box magazine holding three individual rows of cartridges. During the feed cycle, the top three rounds were simultaneously stripped into individual chambers. GE's design used an asymmetrical three-chamber cylinder while GATX's design used a symmetrical nine-chamber cylinder. By 1973, the prototypes reportedly achieved cyclic rates of ~4,500 rounds per minute in three-round bursts. The US Army's basic design was US Patent #4,102,241: http://www.google.com/patents/US4102241 General Electric was US Patent #3,788,191: http://www.google.com/patents/US3788191 I have not been able to find a DCR patent directly credited to GATX. There is a small article on the DCR in the May-June 1973 issue of Army Research & Development Magazine: http://asc.army.mil/docs/pubs/alt/archives/1973/May-Jun_1973.PDF Also, who actually came up with the abbreviation "USASASA" and thought it was a good idea? I would refuse to say that out of principle of I was involved with them somehow because that's just downright tomfoolery. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sturgeon Posted August 17, 2015 Report Share Posted August 17, 2015 My first appearance on Gun Guy Radio. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tied Posted August 17, 2015 Report Share Posted August 17, 2015 My first appearance on Gun Guy Radio. the fucking addware on that site Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sturgeon Posted August 17, 2015 Report Share Posted August 17, 2015 What, is your adblocker not up to it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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