2805662 Posted September 6, 2023 Report Share Posted September 6, 2023 https://www.defensenews.com/land/2023/09/06/us-army-scraps-abrams-tank-upgrade-unveils-new-modernization-plan/ M1A2 SEPv4 canned in favour of M1A3 (type-classified M1E3). Sounds a like AbramsX in some areas. Scrubhead, Cleb, Laviduce and 4 others 5 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramlaen Posted September 6, 2023 Report Share Posted September 6, 2023 Hooray we will be free of the SEP names. FORMATOSE and Laviduce 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clan_Ghost_Bear Posted September 7, 2023 Report Share Posted September 7, 2023 Sounds like the clean-sheet design effort has been cancelled, disappointing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaronTibere Posted September 7, 2023 Report Share Posted September 7, 2023 I wouldn't be surprised if GDLS wants to develop the AbramsX demonstrator turret into something for this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanch90 Posted September 7, 2023 Report Share Posted September 7, 2023 2 hours ago, Clan_Ghost_Bear said: Sounds like the clean-sheet design effort has been cancelled, disappointing. Disapointing but sound decision. There is no merit in reinventing the wheel just for the sake of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanch90 Posted September 7, 2023 Report Share Posted September 7, 2023 1 hour ago, BaronTibere said: I wouldn't be surprised if GDLS wants to develop the AbramsX demonstrator turret into something for this. From this: “We can no longer grow its capabilities without adding weight, and we need to reduce its logistical footprint,” Maj. Gen. Glenn Dean, the Army’s program executive officer for ground combat systems, said in the statement. “The war in Ukraine has highlighted a critical need for integrated protections for soldiers, built from within instead of adding on.” It sounds like AbramsX is the path forward. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renegade334 Posted September 7, 2023 Report Share Posted September 7, 2023 Whatever happened to the M1A2C, M1A2D designations that they used for a short while ago to replace the SEP nonsense? Too short to adequately pad a briefing or Powerpoint presentation? I wouldn't mind seeing the AbramsX eventually molting into a M1A3 (if only to pave the way for the clean-sheet DLP), but only if they add protected, non-ready ammo storage inside the turret basket. I'm not too impressed with the twenty-something capacity that the AbramsX' bustle-only carousel provides. Anyway, the AbramsX is relatively close to what the Block III Abrams hoped to be at one point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramlaen Posted September 8, 2023 Report Share Posted September 8, 2023 On 9/7/2023 at 2:06 AM, Renegade334 said: Whatever happened to the M1A2C, M1A2D designations that they used for a short while ago to replace the SEP nonsense? Too short to adequately pad a briefing or Powerpoint presentation? Turns out they were never an Army thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramlaen Posted September 10, 2023 Report Share Posted September 10, 2023 BaronTibere, Laviduce and LoooSeR 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaronTibere Posted September 11, 2023 Report Share Posted September 11, 2023 I agree with his point that Abrams X didn't cause this decision. However I suspect GDLS knew this decision was in the making and that's why they made the Abrams X. It seems far too convenient that it checks a lot of the boxes the army was looking for. I don't think the M1A3 will be Abrams X but I think many of the features will jump over and I wouldn't be surprised if the base turret is used in some form. How does this work though - will other firms bid on this or does it just go to GDLS as the abrams design owner? Ramlaen and alanch90 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Clan_Ghost_Bear Posted September 13, 2023 Report Share Posted September 13, 2023 (edited) Very hard to tell from the image quality, but the hull looks unchanged. Also from Linkedin, what looks to be an M10 with ERA among other things Edited September 14, 2023 by Clan_Ghost_Bear Ramlaen 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramlaen Posted September 14, 2023 Report Share Posted September 14, 2023 The live fire demo at this years Maneuver Warfare Conference had an M1A2 SEPv3, M2A3 and M1127. Clan_Ghost_Bear and Laviduce 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renegade334 Posted September 14, 2023 Report Share Posted September 14, 2023 23 hours ago, Clan_Ghost_Bear said: Very hard to tell from the image quality, but the hull looks unchanged. Turret looks narrower (unmanned + Trophy sponsons?), but I'd digest CADs like this (viewed at an angle, to boot) with a healthy dose of salt. Holy crap. I've been trying to put a name and specific role on that black cylinder for ages. Ramlaen and Clan_Ghost_Bear 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramlaen Posted September 21, 2023 Report Share Posted September 21, 2023 https://www.army.mil/article/270093 Clan_Ghost_Bear 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Umbe_b Posted September 22, 2023 Report Share Posted September 22, 2023 On 9/13/2023 at 7:51 PM, Clan_Ghost_Bear said: Very hard to tell from the image quality, but the hull looks unchanged. Also from Linkedin, what looks to be an M10 with ERA among other things To whom do the 4 models belong? BaE, Point blank, GD and Rheinmetall? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renegade334 Posted September 22, 2023 Report Share Posted September 22, 2023 On 9/13/2023 at 7:51 PM, Clan_Ghost_Bear said: Very hard to tell from the image quality, but the hull looks unchanged. According to Nick Moran on tanknet, who had the chance to watch the actual conference video, the caption reads "M1E3-NG MBT". However, there is also an asterisk at the bottom of the slide, introducing the following warning: "Digital designs not representative of prototype vehicles". Clan_Ghost_Bear and Ramlaen 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramlaen Posted September 23, 2023 Report Share Posted September 23, 2023 A rare opfor camo Abrams Spoiler Clan_Ghost_Bear 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clan_Ghost_Bear Posted September 23, 2023 Report Share Posted September 23, 2023 (edited) @Umbe_b Yes. https://gdls-nextgen.com/us-campaign/ Looks like the StrykerX (now called the Stryker QB) will be returning to AUSA, but the AbramsX will not. Edit: The Army Science Board released their final report on the 5th Generation Combat Vehicle recently, which features a clear, crisp image (finally) of one of the OMT designs. It 404s when linking but is available on their site. Edited September 25, 2023 by Clan_Ghost_Bear Ramlaen, LoooSeR and Scrubhead 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renegade334 Posted September 30, 2023 Report Share Posted September 30, 2023 Clan_Ghost_Bear and Ramlaen 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramlaen Posted September 30, 2023 Report Share Posted September 30, 2023 On 9/23/2023 at 7:31 AM, Clan_Ghost_Bear said: @Umbe_b Yes. https://gdls-nextgen.com/us-campaign/ Looks like the StrykerX (now called the Stryker QB) will be returning to AUSA, but the AbramsX will not. Edit: The Army Science Board released their final report on the 5th Generation Combat Vehicle recently, which features a clear, crisp image (finally) of one of the OMT designs. It 404s when linking but is available on their site. https://asb.army.mil/Portals/105/Documents/2020s/FY 2020 BF2040 ExSum (E).pdf?ver=G5s0339zk2MpT-xp5l4Ypw%3d%3d Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renegade334 Posted October 1, 2023 Report Share Posted October 1, 2023 404s either from the direct link or from the website itself... T_T Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramlaen Posted October 2, 2023 Report Share Posted October 2, 2023 15 hours ago, Renegade334 said: 404s either from the direct link or from the website itself... T_T Yeah it does for me now as well, curious. Glad I saved it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renegade334 Posted October 2, 2023 Report Share Posted October 2, 2023 Can you reup it somewhere to a free filehoster? Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clan_Ghost_Bear Posted October 2, 2023 Report Share Posted October 2, 2023 (edited) @Renegade334 https://imgur.com/a/VS2RNex https://www.gdls.com/ausa2023/ GD has designed an ARV for the Booker. Edited October 3, 2023 by Clan_Ghost_Bear Cleb, Ramlaen, alanch90 and 2 others 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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