Alzoc Posted July 11, 2018 Report Share Posted July 11, 2018 56 minutes ago, Xlucine said: £3.5mil ea.? Cheaper? A new set of modern sights and a computer refresh will not cost that much, given the (probably) leo2a4 -> a7v upgrade is stated here as £1mil ea. Sure but you can't really put a Challenger 2 with a simple upgrade of sights and FCS in the same league than an upgraded Leopard 2. Be it in firepower, mobility or protection a Challenger 2 with such minimal upgrades cannot compete. I should have been more precise with my statement. When I said cheaper I was comparing it with a Challenger 2 which had it's barrel replaced by a more modern smoothbore, and on top of the fact that it didn't solved the problem of it's protection and severely limited the amount of ammo it could carry, IIRC replacing the gun to adress the firepower issue was so costly (although I don't remember the exact figure) that it would have been better to buy new tanks all together. So strictly speaking you are right, it could be cheaper to upgrade the Challenger 2 but the level of capability reached would be far below than the one of a Leopard 2 brought up to A7V standard. So on a "per capability" basis buying off the shelf tanks would be cheaper, however as you said MBT are probably not one of the most pressing concern of the UK MoD, thus they could decide that they can make do with minimal upgrades until the Challenger 2 is replaced. 52 minutes ago, David Moyes said: Where would these second-hand Leopard 2s come from? I thought all the cold war stock had been sold? I honestly have no idea, possibly from a country that wished to sold back it's Leo 2 to cut down expenses? If KMW proposed a deal to the UK and were capable to put a price on it, I guess that they ought to have had a good idea of were to procure those tanks (otherwise calculating the cost would prove difficult). @SH_MM certainly know more than me on that topic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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