General AFV Thread

[SH_MM]

http://below-the-turret-ring.blogspot.ru/2017/01/hardkill-aps-overview.html

 

 

SH, about Afghanit - You say that frontal arc is not covered and picture posted shows launchers aimed at the front of the vehicle...

 

Also, Drozd pics

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Soviet APS 

 

Veer-1 and Veer-3 (on T-64)

 

Zaslon is basically a Soviet Dozhd'

 

 

Thanks for the feedback. Unfortunately I was/am having a bit of time shortage, so I didn't proof read well enough. I will try to fix the error and incorporate your new information into the post when updating.

[LoooSeR]

Canadian Leo that was damaged by a mine in A-stan.

 

Is that a Leo 1 with armor upgrade like this?

[SH_MM]

Yes, that is a Leopard C2 with MEXAS. You can see the spaced (NERA) plate ontop of the glacis and the mounting bolts for the side armor module. Also the turret armor is visible.

[Scolopax]

Remove whale

 

[LoooSeR]

 

[Toxn]

Quick question for the knowledgeable folk over here: what is the approximate minimum turret ring size for turrets with one, two and three-man crews? Furter; is there a standard way of calculating turret ring diameter for a given crew size and/or gun?

 

This useful website provides the following, which seems like pretty good approximations of minimum sizes:

 

M1917 - 91cm

M2A1 - 112cm

M3 Stuart - 118.7cm

M3 Lee (37mm turret) - 138cm

 

Comparing apples to apples, it seems that for a given gun you need something like 20-30cm extra for each new crew member. Which seems like very little, to be honest.

[LoooSeR]

2nd Armoured Brigade of the French Army on maneuvers in Alsace; January 2017

 

 

 

 

 

[LoooSeR]

More Magach tanks in Southern Lebanon, 1982.

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Belesarius]

Altay program hit with tech. transfer issues. Seems Austria isn't really thrilled with Turkeys human rights abuses.

 

http://www.janes.com/article/67104/turkey-s-altay-mbt-project-hit-by-engine-technology-transfer-issues

[LoooSeR]

Turkish Sabra, captured by ISIS, turret side armor is somewhat visible:

[LoooSeR]

More on Turkish Sabras - apperently they used German DM-63 APFSDS and Israeli HEAT ammunition.

 

[Bronezhilet]

If those darts appear on the (black) market, I'd buy one.

[LoooSeR]

UAE Leclercs in Yemen

 

 

[LoooSeR]

10th Armored Division of the British Army on maneuvers in Libya; 1956

[LostCosmonaut]

Quick question for the knowledgeable folk over here: what is the approximate minimum turret ring size for turrets with one, two and three-man crews? Furter; is there a standard way of calculating turret ring diameter for a given crew size and/or gun?

 

This useful website provides the following, which seems like pretty good approximations of minimum sizes:

 

M1917 - 91cm

M2A1 - 112cm

M3 Stuart - 118.7cm

M3 Lee (37mm turret) - 138cm

 

Comparing apples to apples, it seems that for a given gun you need something like 20-30cm extra for each new crew member. Which seems like very little, to be honest.

 

I would think the amount of crew members you could fit in a turret would be proportional to area, rather that diameter. The people in the turret aren't going to be standing in a straight line (probably).

 

Areas inside the turret rings of the tanks you listed above:

 

M1917 - .650 m²

M2A1 - .985 m²

M3 Stuart - 1.107 m²

M3 Lee - 1.496 m²

[Zyklon]

[Zyklon]

[Xlucine]

 

Can anyone ID the guns fitted to the turret? I don't recognise that style of flash hider on a US MG

[Collimatrix]

Can anyone ID the guns fitted to the turret? I don't recognise that style of flash hider on a US MG

 

They look somewhat similar to .303 Browning muzzle boosters:

 

http://www.deactivated-guns.co.uk/images/uploads/1ADE/303ADE-011674_5.jpg

[Collimatrix]

Nevermind, I found a picture of an M2 with that muzzle device:

 

http://www.gunthings.com/browning50.jpg

[Belesarius]

Those were pretty common in Vietnam. I don't know the nomenclature, but they were on lots of M2 of that era.

[Zyklon]

 

 

[LoooSeR]

Iraqi Abrams

[Mighty_Zuk]

Eitan and Namer set to receive 30mm cannon soon. Turret still in development.

 

https://zuk-armor-il.blogspot.co.il/2017/01/new-eitan-info.html

[LoooSeR]

Plnd

 

 

Leclercs