General AFV Thread

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NORINCO getting in on the 40mm CTA game, apparently.

 

"So far, two natures of 40 mm ammunition have been developed for the system. The first of these is the 40 mm high-explosive (HE) round, that is designated CS/BTE3 and has a muzzle velocity of 1,000 m/s.

The second is the 40 mm armour-piercing fin-stabilised discarding sabot (APFSDS), which is designated CS/BAA3. This has a muzzle velocity of 1,450 m/s, and it is claimed that it will penetrate 130 mm of rolled homogenous armour at a range of 1,000 m."

 

http://www.janes.com/article/65100/airshow-china-2016-norinco-lifts-lid-on-40-mm-case-telescoped-weapon

Up-dating post, as because of the forum bug it is gone:

 

 

 

 

 

Ammunition:

 

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Canadian LAVs

 

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K2s

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Iraqi Chonma-Ho

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Iraqi M1 was penetrated frontaly, and looks like through a gap between turret and hull armor.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7vil3lYN0eY

Video is 40 seconds long, after-nothing.

[Toxn]

Oh David, you silly goose, front drive sprockets weren't just for British light tanks!

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zfk2XFQ0MEI

[Ramlaen]

Another inconclusive Metis vs Iraqi Abrams from the same source as above.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uNqC5onGpHA&sns=tw

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Rosomak APC

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This is just weird.  Guy firing AK with super long barrel out of the BOG position in a Panther tank.

 

 

It makes me wonder how unpleasant a BMP must get when the infantrymen inside try to use their rifle firing ports. 

[Bronezhilet]

"Panther"

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Land Platforms

Challenger 2 LEP contracts due in December

Christopher F Foss, London - IHS Jane's Defence Weekly

14 November 2016

 

Artist's impression of British Army Challenger 2 MBT upgraded by Rheinmetall through the LEP with turret traversed to the left and showing improvements to the turret including new commander's panoramic sighting system and situational awareness cameras. Source: Rheinmetall Defence

BAE Systems Land (UK), teamed with General Dynamics Land Systems UK and Rheinmetall Defence, have been downselected for the Challenger 2 Life Extension Programme (LEP) Assessment Phase (AP) with contract award due in December 2016.

The aim of the Challenger 2 LEP is to replace obsolete sub-systems in the turret area including the commander's and gunner's stabilised sighting systems and control handles, gun control equipment, and fire-control computer, and then to fit new commander's, gunner's and loader's displays.

Also bidding for the LEP were CMI Defence (Belgium), teamed with Ricardo (UK); Krauss-Maffei Wegmann (Germany), teamed with Pearson Engineering (UK); Lockheed Martin UK, teamed with Elbit UK; and RUAG Defence (Switzerland), with all of these having additional team members.

Under the original plan 227 Challenger 2s will be put through the LEP with a budget of about GBP250 million (USD316 million).

This was sufficient to upgrade all of the Challenger 2 MBTs used by the three tank regiments plus additional vehicles for training and war reserve.

Under the latest restructuring of the British Army the number of Challenger 2 regiments could be reduced to just two so the 227 figure could well be reduced.

The United Kingdom could end up with one of the smallest MBTs fleets in Europe just as other key members of NATO are increasing their MBT fleets.

At the end of the two-year AP, one contractor will be selected not only for the Demonstration, Manufacture and In-Service (DMI) but also to become the Design Authority (DA) for the Challenger 2 until its projected out of service date on 2035.

In addition to replacing obsolete sub-systems, Rheinmetall Defence have also proposed a number of options to enhance the capability beyond that of the Challenger 2 LEP.

Their Challenger 2 LEP will include a new turret structure engineered with a modular mounting system to allow installation of a new armour package with a growth path to the future.

 

Source: Jane's IHS

 

Rheinmetall's Challenger 2 upgrade propsal (let's call it Challenger 2 Revolution, we know that Rheinmetall is gonna use this name... ) will feature a modular armor mounting system. So it's gonna have some AMAP armor options like the Leopard 2 ®Evolution and the PT-16.

 

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This is just weird.  Guy firing AK with super long barrel out of the BOG position in a Panther tank.

 

 

It makes me wonder how unpleasant a BMP must get when the infantrymen inside try to use their rifle firing ports. 

 

I'm not sure.  Most of the blast will be outside the vehicle, but as you can see from the video, AKs (and all other gas-operated rifles) do leak a significant amount of gun gas around the breech area.

 

The lengthened barrel seems to be screwing with reliability.

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VBIEDs vs Iraqis:

 

Absolutely surreal scene when an Islamic State VBIED drives straight towards an Iraqi Army M1 Abrams and detonates its deadly load. #Mosul.

Video (footage from UAV,  )

 

 

HOLY.

Video (holy fuck)

 

 

Another VBIED, this time targeting several M1114s

Video

 

 

And another one, much to the surprise of the soldiers involved.

Video (that was big one explosion)

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Georgia

 

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Serbian Lazar-2 APC

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Serbian BOV-VP

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Youtube version of what i posted earlier. VBIEDs against Iraqi army and Co are pretty effective.

 

This whole video looks like some RTS gameplay footage becuase of all graphics and angle.

3:17 holy fuck, that miss and ram.

[EnsignExpendable]

Longest gun prize goes to...

 

[CrashbotUS]

Belgrade 

[Khand-e]

Tank graveyard.

 

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Egyptian army

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Something Spanish.

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K1 from above

 

Something about Leclerc:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Altay

 

 

Romania, just no. Buy M1 instead of that...

 

 

 

[Xoon]

K1 from above

 

 

Does the K1 totally lack any kind of turret mounted ammunition or ready rack?

 

And does it have any composite side armor on the turret? 

 

The shape seems kinda curious, even though it makes sense, it does not leave a lot of room.