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[SuperComrade]

As I understand it, this is the US's vetting process for refugees

[SuperComrade]

I mean, there will always be people who slip through any system. If you want to just completely ban people from Muslim countries from your country altogether, fine, I can respect that. Still doesn't work if you're banning them from all except the Muslim countries actually most responsible for all the terrorist attacks conducted in your country.

Until he actually does something about that, anything that Trump says or does is just for show.

[Ramlaen]

Neat.

[Belesarius]

Apparently the ban has been overturned by the courts already.  That was quick.  Still looking for a decent link.

[Jeeps_Guns_Tanks]

Saudi Arabia, the unlisted Gulf States, and Pakistan are the serious exporters of Salafi Jihadism and are all excluded. 

 

As noted earlier, the immigrants/refugees from the 7 listed nations have killed exactly 0 people in terror attacks.  

 

Afghanistan, Egypt, and Nigeria have ISIS territory and are excluded, so that last point seems really arbitrary. 

 

Are there droves of 'refugees' from those three, like most of the ones he listed?   I think that's the key really, if it was just a strait immigration block from nations that have spawned any terrorist, the lefties would be going even more nuts. 

[Sturgeon]

Holy cats the guy is actually trying to keep to some of his crazier promises.

[Priory_of_Sion]

Are there droves of 'refugees' from those three, like most of the ones he listed?   I think that's the key really, if it was just a strait immigration block from nations that have spawned any terrorist, the lefties would be going even more nuts. 

From Afghanistan, Nigeria, and Egypt? Yeah 

[SuperComrade]

That guy who shot up the gay nightclub in Orlando was Afghan, and they also constitute a significant amount of the refugees that are causing headaches to the Germans as well. To be honest, they should not be accepted as refugees now by anyone. This isn't 2001, Afghanistan is not a warzone anymore the way Syria is right now.

[SuperComrade]

I should make it clear that I'm not surprised and quite understand that the US wants to limit Muslim immigration. What I am astonished by is the fact that they were denying people with green cards and visas entry, even though by giving someone a visa or green card you are already implicitly granting them entry unless they violate the terms of their permits.

[ShamefurDispray]

Apparently the ban has been overturned by the courts already.  That was quick.  Still looking for a decent link.

Except the ban was not overturned. They just stayed the deportations of those who are trapped in airports.

[Belesarius]

Except the ban was not overturned. They just stayed the deportations of those who are trapped in airports.

Yes. That is more accurate.

 

https://www.aclu.org/news/federal-court-grants-stay-challenge-trump-immigration-ban

[Walter_Sobchak]

Holy cats the guy is actually trying to keep to some of his crazier promises.

 

Yep.  I personally don't find it all that surprising.

[Sturgeon]

Yep.  I personally don't find it all that surprising.

 

I've been saying this for a while, but I've been expecting to be proven wrong. The cynic in me will just have to go unsatisfied.

[ShamefurDispray]

https://sethfrantzman.com/2017/01/28/obamas-administration-made-the-muslim-ban-possible-and-the-media-wont-tell-you/

turns out it's because those 7 countries were selected by the Department of Homeland Security of the previous administration

[Sturgeon]

LOL: http://twitchy.com/dougp-3137/2017/01/28/whoops-wapos-glenn-kessler-explains-difference-between-obama-trump-bans-accidentally-indicts-msm/

[Sturgeon]

[Priory_of_Sion]

[SergeantMatt]

This is all going to be an... interesting chapter in the history books in 50 years.

[Walter_Sobchak]

This does not bode very well.

 

With National Security Council Shakeup, Steve Bannon Gets A Seat At The Table

 

President Trump has reorganized the National Security Council by elevating his chief strategist Steve Bannon and demoting the Director of National Intelligence and the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff.

[Ramlaen]

Speaking of McCain.

 

[ShamefurDispray]

[SergeantMatt]

Some interesting stats from Reuters Polling Explorer, Trump's approval rating among various demographics.

 

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Filtered to men overall, 47.3% approve, 41.8% disapprove, 10.8% mixed feelings

Women overall, 37.0% approve, 52.0% disapprove, 10.8% mixed feelings
18-29s, 30% approve, 62.0% disapprove, 8% mixed feelings
18-34s, 35% approve, 56.2% disapprove, 8.8% mixed.
35-49s, 45.8% approve, 44.2% disapprove, 10.0% mixed.
50-65s, 47% approve, 42.3% disapprove, 11.1% mixed.
65+, 46% approve, 38% disapprove, 16% mixed
Whites, 53.2% approve, 37.8% disapprove, 9.0% mixed
Blacks, 18% approve, 68% disapprove, 14% mixed
Not enough of any other race surveyed to have a decent sample size.
New England, 34% approve, 57% disapprove, 9% mixed
Great Lakes, 42% approve, 49% disapprove, 9.4% mixed
Southeast, 49.7% approve, 43.6% disapprove, 6.7% mixed
Southwest, 48% approve, 38% disapprove, 14% mixed
West Coast, 29% approve, 42% disapprove, 29% mixed'
Mid-Atlantic, 43% approve, 50% disapprove, 6.7% mixed(edited)
Plains, 44% approve, 40% disapprove, 16% mixed
Less than high school, 42.5% approve, 46.4% disapprove, 11% mixed
Highschool or some college, 45.1% approve, 42.4% disapprove, 12.5% mixed
College, 35.7% approve, 57.1% disapprove, 7.2% mixed
Post-grads, 46% approve, 48% disapprove, 6.3% mixed
Voted for clinton, 6% approve, 82% disapprove, 12% mixed
Voted for Trump, 92.3% approve, 3.4% disapprove, 4.3% mixed
Registered Dems, 22% approve, 69% disapprove, 9% mixed
Registered republicans, 79% approve, 14% disapprove, 7% mixed
Independents, 40% approve, 38% disapprove, 22% mixed
Other parties, 27% approve, 43% disapprove, 30% mixed
Registered to vote, 45.4% approve, 46.2% disapprove, mixed
<25k income, 38% approve, 46% disapprove, 15.9% mixed
$25-50k, 46% approve, 31% disapprove, 22% mixed
50-75k, 46% approve, 49% disapprove, 5% mixed
75-100k, 50% approve, 44% disapprove, 5.9% mixed
100-150k, 52% approve, 47% disapprove, 1.3% mixed
150k+, 46% approve, 44% disapprove, 9.7% mixed
Straights, 47% approve, 44% disapprove, 9.2% mixed
Not enough of other orientations to have a good sample size
Protestants, 61% approve, 26% disapprove, 13% mixed
Catholics, 43% approve, 51% disapprove, 6.3% mixed
Baptists, 52% approve, 42% disapprove, 6.4% mixed
No religion, 31% approve, 58% disapprove, 10.7% mixed
Born Again Christians, 58.5% approve, 33.5% disapprove, 8% mixed
Not enough of any other religious group surveyed for a good sample size.
Never go to church, 35% approve, 53% disapprove, 11.4% mixed
Go every week, 63% approve, 28% disapprove, 8.5% mixed

[ApplesauceBandit]

Are we posting Trump/Election memes now that SH is back up?

[Ramlaen]

[Jeeps_Guns_Tanks]

2 minutes ago, Ramlaen said:

 

Sounds good to me, but it's going to go over like a led balloon with the Democrats.