The Soviet Tank Thread: Transversely Mounted 1000hp Engines

[LoooSeR]

   1. Tochka in St.Petersburg museum of artillery. Adopted in 1975. Firing range - 15-70 km ("Tochka-U" - 150 km), the total weight - 16 tons, the rocket - 2t, crew - 3 people.

 

   The launcher is mounted on a three-axle amphibious automobile chassis BAZ-5921. Near it (on the ground) - 9Ya234 container for storage of rockets.

 

   2. Luna-M. 9P113 launcher with a 9M21 missile, accepted into service in 1964. Firing range - 15-70 km, the overall mass - 16.4 m, the rocket - 2.5t, crew - 5 people.

 

   Launcher - on the chassis ZIL-135LM, transport vehicle - chassis ZIL-135LTM.

 

   Transport vehicle of the Luna system, ZIL-135LTM.

 

   3. 2P16 (based on PT-76) with unguided 3R9 rocket, put into service in 1960. 

 

   Range: with 3R9 rockets (high-explosive warhead) - 45 km, with the 3R10 (special warhead) - 32 km, the mass installation - 15.5 tons, rocket - 2.3 tons crew - 5 people.

 

 

   4. 9P120 launcher with a missile 9M76 tactical missile system 9K76 "Temp-S", put into service in 1968. Firing range - 300-900 km, total weight - 29.9t, rocket - 9.4t. On the INF Treaty, December 8, 1987 between the Soviet Union and the United States, system was eliminated.

 

   MAZ-543 was used as the chassis for the launcher unit, chassis is similar to that used in the 9K72 "Elbrus» ("Scud"), but a rocket, located inside of the launcher, was covered in a special container, that opened along the longitudinal axis of the launcher unit after verticalization of the missiles before start.

 

 

   To control the missile during the boost phase, deflectors were installed on the nozzles. The control system used gyrostabilized platform with gyro units of pitch, yaw and rotation

 

   9M76 - two-stage solid-fuel ballistic missile with a nuclear warhead. Warhead separated from final stage during flight.

 

 

 

   5. 9P71 launcher with a 9M714 tactical missile of the 9K714 "Oka" system, put into service in 1980. Range - 50-400 km, weight of whole system - 24.6 t, the missile - 4.36 t. On the INF Treaty on December 8, 1987 between the Soviet Union and the United States system was eliminated.

 

   The complex was intended to replace the 9K72 "Elbrus" (Scud) missile system.

 

   Flight tests of the complex began in 1978, with missiles launches at Kapustin Yar. State tests were carried out in the 1977-1979, during which 26 launches of missiles were made. The complex was put into service in 1980.

 

   Solid-fuel 9K714 missiles was deisgned as a single-stage and equipped with separatable warhead. The rocket used inertial control system. To improve the accuracy, radar homing was used to correct trajectory. The missile could have been equipped with conventional warheads, or nuclear (10-50 kt).

 

   Replacement of warheads at launch site could have been done within 15 minutes. At the end of the active portion of the trajectory, the missile reached 4M speed. Missiles trajectories were controled by means of a lattice aerodynamic tail rudders. The height of the highest point of a ballistic trajectory - 120 km. The missile was equipped with a complex of overcoming missile defense ("KSP PRO" KSP - complex of overcoming PRO - anti-air defence). Using KSP PRO reduces the probability of interception of the 9K714 missiles by anti-air systems.

 

   Self-propelled launcher (SPL) 9P71 was based on 4-axle amphibious BAZ-6944 chassis, with a V-shaped UTD25 engine (400 HP). The chassis was manufactured at the Bryansk automobile plant. SPL was developed by SKB-221, prototypes were produced at the "Barricades" plant and engaged in mass production at Petropavlovskiy heavy engineering plant named after Lenin (Kazakhstan). As SPL 9P71, transportation and loading vehicle (TLV) 9T230 was based on the  chassis of BAZ-6944. TLV transported the two missiles.

 

   The complex "Oka" was liquidated by the Soviet Union after the signing of the Treaty on the Elimination of Intermediate-Range with the USA (1987), although formally under the terms of the agreement Oka was not to be included into list, because it had a launch range of up to 400 km. In accordance with this standard criteria set, Oka system was not to be affected by agreement.

    In 1987, after the signing of the contract, an improved complex "Oka-U" testing and development was terminated. After the collapse of the Warsaw Pact, 18 missiles remained in Germany (by then already united), the same amount - in Bulgaria, about a dozen - in Slovakia and four - in Romania. US readily agreed with Germany on systems destruction. Negotiations with Romania and Slovakia tightened. Until the fall of 1998, while in Bratislava remained under power of Vladimir Meciar, Slovakia did not want to abandon its missile ambitions. Only after the change of leadership and the announcement of the intention to join NATO, sysems were destroyed by 2002. In 2003, Bulgaria has destroyed the last 8 SPL and 24 missiles.

[SuperComrade]

I liked the Voennoe Delo feature on the Tochka and Luna

[LoooSeR]

Patrul'-A armored car/light MRAP.

 

 

 

 

 

[EnsignExpendable]

His log game is strong.

 

[SuperComrade]

Surprised Leo 2A1 is considered 2 times as effective as a T-72A

[Walter_Sobchak]

From Tanknet:

 

[Donward]

Log now doubles as gun stabilizer plus added mantlet armor.

Log. For all your Soviet tanker needs.

[Tied]

Surprised Leo 2A1 is considered 2 times as effective as a T-72A

 

>any tank considered less value than challenger

[Tied]

From Tanknet:

 

 

 

He literally LOGGED IN 

[Mike E]

I have more beef with the T-72B/M1A1 number. They were rather similar in performance at the time.

(Nevermind the T-64B and Challenger...really?)

[EnsignExpendable]

From Tanknet:

 

 

The bullet is a fool, the bayonet is a fine chap!

[Walter_Sobchak]

Surprised Leo 2A1 is considered 2 times as effective as a T-72A

That's from the new Zaloga book on the T-64.  Looking at the "further reading" suggestions Zaloga provides at the end of the book, it would seem he relied almost exclusively on Russian and Ukrainian sources for this book.  

[Priory_of_Sion]

Do we know how those combat-technical values were found?

[Walter_Sobchak]

Do we know how those combat-technical values were found?

No, Zaloga does not give much info about these figures.  In a different part of the book he refers to "a VNII Transmash study."  

[Collimatrix]

It sounds similar to an assessment the Soviet military did.

 

I can think of a few explanations; if you look at the link above, compare the Leo 1 vs the Leo1A4.

 

The only difference of importance between the two is the presence of the PERI R12 thermal imager.

 

Post-Soviet tank salesmen may have poo-pooed the importance of thermal optics vice gen III image intensifiers, but that's just because they were trying to make a buck.  In the Cold War the Soviets knew perfectly well what a big edge they were.

[Priory_of_Sion]

It sounds similar to an assessment the Soviet military did.

I see the Soviets had a crush on the M60A2. 

[Mike E]

I don't care who did this study, in what universe is the T-64B more effective than the T-72B?

[T___A]

Leonid Karstev headed the committee believe it or not.

[Tied]

I don't care who did this study, in what universe is the T-64B more effective than the T-72B?

 

Obviously the drunk illiterate Ukrainian  studydoeers simply forgot to but the M or V after the T-64B

[Vasily Krysov]

I don't care who did this study, in what universe is the T-64B more effective than the T-72B?

 

Possibly they are accounting for the greater amount of training and readiness in the Gaurds units? Though I agree the T-72B is better on a technical level.

[LoooSeR]

[LoooSeR]

BAZ-135MB vehicle, part of "Redut" complex, Novorossiysk.

 

[LoooSeR]

T-72B

 

 

Russia: Tanks$Churches 

 

 

T-62MV

[LoooSeR]

Some interesting new MLRS on this new chassis.

[LeuCeaMia]

It sounds similar to an assessment the Soviet military did.

 

I can think of a few explanations; if you look at the link above, compare the Leo 1 vs the Leo1A4.

 

The only difference of importance between the two is the presence of the PERI R12 thermal imager.

 

Post-Soviet tank salesmen may have poo-pooed the importance of thermal optics vice gen III image intensifiers, but that's just because they were trying to make a buck.  In the Cold War the Soviets knew perfectly well what a big edge they were.

 

The difference isn't as pronounced with the Leo 1A1 and 1A4, considering they also differ by the improved turret armour. The stabilizer seems to be the larger factor to them.