Brick Fight Posted December 15, 2015 Report Share Posted December 15, 2015 I want to like Larry Vickers, but he needs to get his cameraman off of coke, and get himself some pronunciation coaching. The FG-42 probably suffered the most from being hard to get a hold of. You couldn't really got analysis beyond a few people who fired them and what specs could be relayed. Everything else was just more reactionary response due to limited info. I'm sure it wasn't the future-is-now weapon some make it out to be, but it was a solid concept with some impressive tech for the time. I'm especially interested in how switching from semi to auto reconfigures it to open bolt. The Smithsonian Channel has this neat show called The Weapon Hunter. If I remember, he went into pretty decent detail about the FG-42, and even got camera time with rare items like those flare guns that the Fallschirm converted into grenade launchers. He definitely seems worth a watch, as I've seen quite a few episodes and not heard one ridiculous myth out of his mouth (funny that's a genuine pro to a show, but there we are). I was surprised how well the guy knew his stuff. Hell, I was just amazed that he dubbed the PaK 40 as the biggest danger to Allied tanks, instead of Tigers or 88s. There was even an episode that showed him going around for parts to fix up an old M10. Tied and Sturgeon 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sturgeon Posted December 15, 2015 Report Share Posted December 15, 2015 Here's the episode in question. I am actually totally fine with calling the FG-42 an "assault rifle", because that doesn't really mean anything anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoooSeR Posted December 15, 2015 Report Share Posted December 15, 2015 What pistols do those magazines belong to? Gotta be a Russian design; two position feed. Most GSH-18 mags I've seen have big cutouts in the sides, so I don't think it's that. PYa, i believe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toxn Posted December 15, 2015 Report Share Posted December 15, 2015 Our resident Germanophile will be happy to hear this; I may be beginning to come around regarding the FG-42. I was originally pretty skeptical about claims of its mild recoil, but the more I look into it, the more I think its secret sauce might actually work. It's certainly got a lot of neat little engineering features to it, and I think I seriously wonder about how durable those new reproductions are (the originals are supposed to be pretty fragile and breaky, but given the Germans' situation at the time, I wonder how much of that was pushing a design too far, and how much was limited design time in addition to lackluster metallurgy). As I mentioned in my latest Light Rifle article, I am about 99% convinced that the FG-42 was the "light at the end of the tunnel" for the US Lightweight Rifle program, and the original reason they so tenaciously pursued a full-caliber select-fire infantry rifle. This obviously leads to the question "why didn't they just clone it for the rifle program, like they did for the machine gun program?" Finally, check out how friggin' tiny the First Model is: Absolutely off the hook. How much of this was due to German designers being very aggressive and forward-thinking, versus American designers (with one or two glaring exceptions) being sort of conservative and production-minded? A lot of the shitty compromises you described in your article were about maintaining existing plant/tooling/ancillary stock rather than being the result of shitty design. Sturgeon 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex C. Posted December 15, 2015 Report Share Posted December 15, 2015 Our resident Germanophile will be happy to hear this Wait... is that me? If so, I present my final form: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoooSeR Posted December 15, 2015 Report Share Posted December 15, 2015 Glock and Vityaz SMGs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Tied Posted December 15, 2015 Report Share Posted December 15, 2015 I want to like Larry Vickers, but he needs to get his cameraman off of coke, and get himself some pronunciation coaching. The FG-42 probably suffered the most from being hard to get a hold of. You couldn't really got analysis beyond a few people who fired them and what specs could be relayed. Everything else was just more reactionary response due to limited info. I'm sure it wasn't the future-is-now weapon some make it out to be, but it was a solid concept with some impressive tech for the time. I'm especially interested in how switching from semi to auto reconfigures it to open bolt. The Smithsonian Channel has this neat show called The Weapon Hunter. If I remember, he went into pretty decent detail about the FG-42, and even got camera time with rare items like those flare guns that the Fallschirm converted into grenade launchers. He definitely seems worth a watch, as I've seen quite a few episodes and not heard one ridiculous myth out of his mouth (funny that's a genuine pro to a show, but there we are). I was surprised how well the guy knew his stuff. Hell, I was just amazed that he dubbed the PaK 40 as the biggest danger to Allied tanks, instead of Tigers or 88s. There was even an episode that showed him going around for parts to fix up an old M10. Provided these are on Youtube, you sir just bleed some of my spare time like a stuck pig Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sturgeon Posted December 15, 2015 Report Share Posted December 15, 2015 What my girlfriend wore to work today: T___A and Tied 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Belesarius Posted December 16, 2015 Report Share Posted December 16, 2015 Portuguese SF buying HK416A5s and a few 417s too apparently. Tho, with those #s Portugal doesn't appear to have a very big SF unit. http://www.janes.com/article/56620/portuguese-army-buys-additional-hk416a5-rifles Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex C. Posted December 16, 2015 Report Share Posted December 16, 2015 Boy howdy, HK probably made tens of dollars off that sale. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cm_kruger Posted December 16, 2015 Report Share Posted December 16, 2015 Boy howdy, HK probably made tens of dollars off that sale. Well sometimes a European arms company has to do some deals where they only break even so that they can say "well not ALL of our sales go to the death squads of General Bloodmurder al-Badguy, President-for-Life of Oilistan." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scolopax Posted December 16, 2015 Report Share Posted December 16, 2015 I assume most here have seen these things before, but I was shown this today: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex C. Posted December 16, 2015 Report Share Posted December 16, 2015 Little something I am working on: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U6Kj_dm362w Donward and Brick Fight 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brick Fight Posted December 16, 2015 Report Share Posted December 16, 2015 Little something I am working on: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U6Kj_dm362w Reloading is my gun porn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sturgeon Posted December 16, 2015 Report Share Posted December 16, 2015 Alex Capps quickly became the founding member and lead prophet of the Cult of The Stripper Clip, which - despite several hundred years of initial persecution by the pagan Garand Empire - became the leading small arms religion in the world. T___A, Donward and Alex C. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donward Posted December 16, 2015 Report Share Posted December 16, 2015 Alex Capps quickly became the founding member and lead prophet of the Cult of The Stripper Clip, which - despite several hundred years of initial persecution by the pagan Garand Empire - became the leading small arms religion in the world. The Stripper Clip would be a great name for a gun oriented strip... er I mean... "Gentleman's Club". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Collimatrix Posted December 17, 2015 Report Share Posted December 17, 2015 Alex Capps quickly became the founding member and lead prophet of the Cult of The Stripper Clip, which - despite several hundred years of initial persecution by the pagan Garand Empire - became the leading small arms religion in the world. HOW WILL YOU HAVE HIGH CAPACITY WITHOUT EN-BLOC CLIPS, HUH? (this rifle is so goofy, I love it to death) Tied and Sturgeon 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Collimatrix Posted December 17, 2015 Report Share Posted December 17, 2015 So, this is pretty funny. I wonder if parts will interchange with the original Grendel P10/P12? According to reliable sources the S&W bodyguard auto is also based on the Kel-Tec, sharing the distinctive tension hammer spring (which the diagram above shows the Grendel did not have; it looks like it had a Tokarev-style clock spring inside the hammer). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donward Posted December 17, 2015 Report Share Posted December 17, 2015 Where is your Striker fired, polymer framed Messiah now? Rise in accidental gunshots by L.A. County deputies follows new firearm In 2012, there were 12 accidental discharges, none involving the M&P. In 2013, there were 18, eight of which were M&Ps. Of the 30 incidents in 2014, 22 involved M&Ps. Per CNN Guns used by LA deputies put officers, public at risk, report says The department went to the new gun, in part, because it is easier to handle and easier to shoot accurately, particularly for people with small hands. Small hands. Small hands. Small hands. Small hands. It is the people with "small hands" that have ruined today's shooting industry. Gotta go and get ready for Mech's application of a beer bottle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sturgeon Posted December 18, 2015 Report Share Posted December 18, 2015 What gun did they replace? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Collimatrix Posted December 18, 2015 Report Share Posted December 18, 2015 HK's first attempt at a belt-fed machine gun was less than completely successful. Sturgeon and Scolopax 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sturgeon Posted December 18, 2015 Report Share Posted December 18, 2015 Obvious PR photos are some of my favorite kinds of photos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Collimatrix Posted December 18, 2015 Report Share Posted December 18, 2015 Fr srs though, does anyone know what that attachment on the trigger is? It doesn't look like a solenoid kit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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