Syrian conflict.

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Two SyAAF IL-76 [YK-ATA/ATD], Mahan A310, Saha B747 [EP-SHB], Iran Air A300 and another unknown plane between Damascus and Tehran/Abadan tonight

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http://charly015.blogspot.ru/2017/04/el-ataque-estadounidense-contra-al.html

[Bronezhilet]

24 hits out of ~60 launched?

 

Ouch.

[Priory_of_Sion]

31 minutes ago, Bronezhilet said:

24 hits out of ~60 launched?

 

Ouch.

Wonder if this is the first time that Tomahawks have been fired into a country with a halfway decent air defense. 

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Just now, Priory_of_Sion said:

Wonder if this is the first time that Tomahawks have been fired into a country with a halfway decent air defense. 

I don't think the Syrian air defence actually engaged them. At least, I haven't seen reports that they did.

[Priory_of_Sion]

4 minutes ago, Bronezhilet said:

I don't think the Syrian air defence actually engaged them. At least, I haven't seen reports that they did.

I'm skeptical that 36 Tomahawks just failed, but I guess that's plausible. No reports that they hit anywhere else. 

[Ramlaen]

Perhaps targets were given multiple missiles in case defenses had been active.

[Mighty_Zuk]

Bunkers could have been hit multiple times. Due to the relatively narrow passage, they should require a second missile to be sure.

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Shaa'yrat AFB 30 minutes ago.

 

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Shaa'yrat AFB #SyAAF #RuAF are still operating from the AB.

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#BREAKING: Turkey's President @RT_Erdogan visits Hatay province on the Turkish-Syrian border, says Syrian terror State days are numbered.

 

 

[Mighty_Zuk]

Speaking of Erdogan, I'm quite surprised he pulled out of Al Bab. If he implies he will intervene, which I doubt will happen due to possible tensions with Russia, he may risk becoming a national embarrassment. Not good for him, since becoming a sultan is his prime goal. 

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1 hour ago, Mighty_Zuk said:

Speaking of Erdogan, I'm quite surprised he pulled out of Al Bab. If he implies he will intervene, which I doubt will happen due to possible tensions with Russia, he may risk becoming a national embarrassment. Not good for him, since becoming a sultan is his prime goal. 

WTF? When Erdogan "pulled out" of Al-Bab? Do you understand that he already directly intevenied in borth Iraq and Syria? National embarrassment for fighting against declared enemies in the interest of his supporters?

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Ben Garrison weighs in: 

 

Is it bad that I was waiting for this?

 

[Priory_of_Sion]

7 minutes ago, LoooSeR said:

National embarrassment for fighting against declared enemies in the interest of his supporters?

I think it would be an embarrassment for Turkey to get its ass kicked by Russia/Assad as the Turkish military barley seems to be able to handle the lightly armed militants in Operation Euphrates Shield. Imagining them going on the offensive against the SAA/Russia/IRGC/Hezbollah seems like a losing effort. Though it would be something to consolidate power around. 

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40 minutes ago, Priory_of_Sion said:

I think it would be an embarrassment for Turkey to get its ass kicked by Russia/Assad as the Turkish military barley seems to be able to handle the lightly armed militants in Operation Euphrates Shield. Imagining them going on the offensive against the SAA/Russia/IRGC/Hezbollah seems like a losing effort. Though it would be something to consolidate power around. 

   I think that he will not get ass kicked, look at how our position shifted just after 1 jet got shot down - Turkey got a greenlight to get into Syria and create declared zone between Kurds in Afrin and rest of "Rojava". And amount of forces that Turkey can use in Syria is far greater than what we can.

[Priory_of_Sion]

14 minutes ago, LoooSeR said:

   I think that he will not get ass kicked, look at how our position shifted just after 1 jet got shot down - Turkey got a greenlight to get into Syria and create declared zone between Kurds in Afrin and rest of "Rojava". And amount of forces that Turkey can use in Syria is far greater than what we can.

I don't they have an officer corp of any quality and thus aren't that capable, especially after the recent purges of the Turkish military. However, I see what you are saying. 

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2 hours ago, LoooSeR said:

WTF? When Erdogan "pulled out" of Al-Bab? Do you understand that he already directly intevenied in borth Iraq and Syria? National embarrassment for fighting against declared enemies in the interest of his supporters?

 

Sorry, my fault. I misinterpreted the cessation of the operation as pulling out (though I remember reading they're replacing their troops with local groups). But they have, at least for now, stopped their activities there (without their main objective completed). 

 

The national embarrassment would be when Erdogan will try to confront Russia publicly, and get its political ass whooped. Turkey knows that not only is Russia too much to handle when it has its other problems, but it knows it may potentially get it kicked out of NATO and further away from any alliance it might have had. 

Now, if he'll try a direct military confrontation with Russian troops in Syria, or even the SAA, there might be some serious Russian retaliation.

 

And how could a newly made sultan explain to his people that the country is in shambles after he promised them a glorious war?

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Syrian thread in otvaga is on fire.

 

1 hour ago, Priory_of_Sion said:

I don't they have an officer corp of any quality and thus aren't that capable, especially after the recent purges of the Turkish military. However, I see what you are saying. 

1) It is not like SAA is in a good shape, having 5+ frontlines to fight in the same time.

2) FSA will be Turkish army cannon meat in fight with SAA, same as it was in Al-Bab operation

3) US actions (if countinues and i expect after Deir EzZor and today event they will continue) will erode SAA capabilities

4) Our presence in Syria is much much smaller than military logic speeks. According to Murakhovskiy (highly respected mil analysist here) an additional 10-15k well equipped assault force would be able to win Syria war in less than a year (judging by numbers of active troops and scales of operations in Syrian main frontlines). Amount of our active forces is limited to SOF and 1-2k top. Which means that we are barely capable to change balance of power to Syria advantage. And by 1+ year of our operation in Syria you can see than actual situation changed not very much, with only recent Tiger forces advances in Eastern Aleppo province starting to look like a real effort to smash ISIS. On Hayat Takhrir/Al-qaeda frontlines there were no serious changes after Lattakia push in 2015-early 2016.

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Not enough happy Al-Clintoni faces in this photo

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Chief of the General Staff of the Syrian Armed Forces General Ayub visited the Shayrat AB

 

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I went to sleep hoping for good news.  I see there is none.  So be it.




Dear President Vladimir Putin,

 

 

I wish it hadn't come to this.  Nuke the hippies first, that's all I ask.

[Ramlaen]

http://abcnews.go.com/International/us-releases-flight-path-plane-syria-chemical-attack/story?id=46651125

 

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The Pentagon has released a graphic detailing the flight path of a Syrian aircraft used to attack civilians with chemical weapons earlier this week.

 

Tuesday's attack at the hands of the Syrian regime in the city of Khan Shaykhun left at least 86 civilians dead, and prompted the U.S. military to strike Shayrat air base on Thursday night with 59 tomahawk missiles.

 

Edited April 7, 2017 by Ramlaen
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Your hyperlink got mussed up there somehow, Ramlaen.