ATGMs and RPGs for infantry - a thread for rebels around the world to choose their ATGM supplier.

[LoooSeR]

MMP showing retargeting capability.

 

[LoooSeR]

   Ground version of Iranian Almaz (Diamond) ATGM, which is either based on Spike, or is a copy of Spike ATGMs, that Iran managed to get (trophies from Lebanon AFAIK). Photos from ceremony of weapon acceptance of IRGC ground forces. 8 km max range claimed, at least for air version. Ground one could have around 4-5.

Stolen from Yuri Lyamin's blog.

 

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[LoooSeR]

   State of ATGMs in Russia:

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[LoooSeR]

82-mm silent portable mortar 2B25 "Gall" 

 

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[LoooSeR]

   3D models of kinetic energy ATGM that KBP is still working on.

 

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[ADC411]

What does item number 9 represent? Or I suppose I should ask, How do pouches on a load bearing vest relate to the function of the ATGM?

[LoooSeR]

On 8/8/2021 at 11:30 AM, ADC411 said:

What does item number 9 represent? Or I suppose I should ask, How do pouches on a load bearing vest relate to the function of the ATGM?

 

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Pic. 1.1 - ISV; 2 - stock; 3 - PPN; 4 - mock up of TPVP; 5 - PU; 6 - IP; 7 - mock up of the NRZ; 8 - TAS; 9 - equipment blocks 

   Doesn't say what exactly is there. Found in Andrey's blogpost (in Russian).

[LoooSeR]

   Police SF training with RGS-50

 

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[LoooSeR]

On 3/10/2021 at 2:45 PM, LoooSeR said:

 

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  MARCH 9, 2021. The Balkan 40mm anti-personnel automatic grenade launcher has successfully passed state tests. Prior to this, the weapon underwent experimental operation in the troops.

   “Based on the results of the tests, the 6S19 Balkan grenade launcher was recommended for adoption by the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation,” said Alexander Kochkin, executive director of the Engineering Technologies NPO, to TASS.

  40 mm for this thing are caseless.

 

   A bit more on Baikal

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   In terms of firepower, of course, it surpasses the standard AGS-17 and AGS-30, but it is much heavier, which makes its combat crew less mobile.

   - What then was the meaning of its creation?

  - It has powerful and effective ammunition. After all the improvements, a decision will be made on its supply, which units will get it. Perhaps it will be used to equip the fighting compartments of lightly armored vehicles. But in general, it is up to the military, of course. 

 

[Lord_James]

Where is the line drawn between “suicide drone” and “loitering ATGM/munition”? 

[LoooSeR]

49 minutes ago, Lord_James said:

Where is the line drawn between “suicide drone” and “loitering ATGM/munition”? 

   There are no loitering ATGMs now that i know. Loitering munition and suicide drones are pretty much same weapon type, although somebody can distinguish them by max time they can remain in air and ability to get back and land to be reused.

[Dominus Dolorem]

On 8/7/2021 at 2:47 AM, LoooSeR said:

   3D models of kinetic energy ATGM that KBP is still working on.

 

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Will this thing be portable?

[LoooSeR]

5 hours ago, Dominus Dolorem said:

Will this thing be portable?

Yes, it is man portable in concepts.

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18 hours ago, LoooSeR said:

Yes, it is man portable in concepts.

Damn if they can minimise the size of a KE ATGM to that extent just imagine how terrifying the larger ones for IFVs and helicopters will be.

[LoooSeR]

   GPR-30, disposable UBGL.

 

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[LoooSeR]

   Soldiers of 78th army of Northen command of PRC with new F&F ATGM, probably based on HJ-12 (Red Arrow-12) prototypes.

 

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[LoooSeR]

   New from Best Korean - North Korean copy of Kornet at recent parade of paramilitary units.

[jeffster]

On 8/20/2021 at 2:54 PM, Lord_James said:

Where is the line drawn between “suicide drone” and “loitering ATGM/munition”? 

I think the difference is a drone would be returned to base if the threat is gone (ei multiple drones sent, the extra drones weren't needed.) Where as a loitering munition would have a self destruct or just be a uxo.

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JK-1 individual weapon with infrared or laser guidance. Propulsion section is 40mm in diameter. The warhead and guidance section is 62mm in diameter, which separates from the propulsion section once fuel is spent. Can be fired while on the move (at low speeds only). Intended targets are light-armor vehicles, fixed structures, individuals, etc

   Proposed guided munition for a RPG-7

 

[N-L-M]

It was only a matter of time, I suppose. 

I do find the lack of wings to be surprising, as it implies a speed high enough to gain substantial aerodynamic body lift for maneuvering.

 

[LoooSeR]

   Somebody still using RG-6. 

 

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[Stimpy75]

Karaok from Roketsan (Turkish Javelin like)

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[LoooSeR]

   Shooting with Metis ATGM. Interesting moment when camera shows flight path from behind gunner, they launched missile way higher than a target and then guide it to the target below initial flight trajectory.

 

[Collimatrix]

3 hours ago, LoooSeR said:

   Shooting with Metis ATGM. Interesting moment when camera shows flight path from behind gunner, they launched missile way higher than a target and then guide it to the target below initial flight trajectory.

 

 

I have read that Kornet does something similar to avoid the missile hitting obstacles on the way to the target.