StuG III Thread (and also other German vehicles I guess)

[Collimatrix]

Nope.  It's a tigger ausf B.  Note that there are nine swing arms per side and only two layers of road wheels.

[Walter_Sobchak]

Pz IV suspension is a bit weird looking.

 

[EnsignExpendable]

That's a crazy place to put a leaf spring.

[Walter_Sobchak]

Krupp really liked leaf springs.  

[Jeeps_Guns_Tanks]

Pz IV suspension is a bit weird looking.

 

That seems like a shit design that would be both weak and lose you ground clearance

[Sturgeon]

Nope. It's a tigger ausf B. Note that there are nine swing arms per side and only two layers of road wheels.

Oh, I was mostly paying attention to the drive sprocket area.

I guess you've made your point, then.

[Sturgeon]

That seems like a shit design that would be both weak and lose you ground clearance

Also, "LOL, what's readwheel travel?"

[Toxn]

Pz IV suspension is a bit weird looking.

It looks sort of related to the Vickers suspensions from the 30s.

[Walter_Sobchak]

It looks sort of related to the Vickers suspensions from the 30s.

Krupp also was responsible for the suspension of the Pz I which was pretty heavily influenced by the Vickers design, so it's probably no surprise you are seeing a resemblance.  

[Collimatrix]

That seems like a shit design that would be both weak and lose you ground clearance

 

I agree with Toxn; it looks typical of 1930s design practices.  It wouldn't really lose ground clearance, since there's a track running underneath all your road wheels.  Attaching the springing medium to the moving side of the swing arm is generally a bad idea for suspension performance though, since it increases unsprung mass.

 

Porsche did this too, except with longitudinal torsion bars:

 

 

 

Oh, I was mostly paying attention to the drive sprocket area.

I guess you've made your point, then.

 

The big round thingie housings nearest the camera, on the opposite side of the tank from where Ike is?  Those are idler wheel housings.  Ike is standing at the front of the tank and walking to the rear.

 

Oh, and the other giveaway that it's a tigger is that the road wheel swing arms are going opposite directions.

[Bronezhilet]

Can somebody actually point me to a successful Porsche design?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

That's right. Didn't think so.

[Mohamed A]

911 isn't bad is it?

[Collimatrix]

It's a really shitty tank.

[LostCosmonaut]

Their airplanes aren't that great either;

 

[Walter_Sobchak]

Can somebody actually point me to a successful Porsche design?

 

 

 

Of course, Dr. Porsche borrowed a bit from the Tatra 87 for the Beetle.  

[Collimatrix]

I take it back; apparently the panther had leading swing arms on the left side:

 

[Collimatrix]

 

 

 

Hmmmmmm...

 

 

Dear god

[Sturgeon]

That super short recoil stroke!

[Collimatrix]

According to the British motion studies of German tanks, the tiger II loader had problems servicing the gun with the space they had available.

 

The hitler panther is just not looking like a hot idea.

[Legiondude]

Tried my own hand in MSPaint to get it as similar as I could with the excerpt of the blueprint Yuri Pasholok posted(4th one down)

[EnsignExpendable]

He says that Doyle's projections match the blueprint, so just use those.

[Legiondude]

I assumed so, but Doyle's drawing isn't very telling of the internal space other than going off the end of the barrel

[Collimatrix]

Were they planning on moving the recoil cylinders around?  It looks like they would clonk into the rangefinder if the gun depresses more than a few degrees.

 

Good work, by the way.  Obviously, I didn't put much effort in mine.

 

Another thought; does anyone have a panther with a schmallturm in WOT or WT?  I'm curious how they model the mantlet when the gun elevates and depresses.

 

Also, I'm curious why the hitler panther was drawn without a muzzle brake.  IIRC, the pantherfibel says never to fire the gun without the brake, and that's with the 75mm.

[Bronezhilet]

On the topic of identifying tanks:

[LoooSeR]

"Superior Crew confort"