Żółć Posted July 5, 2022 Report Share Posted July 5, 2022 Long time no see. Today, the Polish MoD signed a contract for 341 ZSSW-30 turrets. The first production batch is composed of 70x ZSSW-30 turrets, which are to be fitted to Rosomak wheeled IFVs. The batches to follow are meant to incorporate upgrades/modifications based on feedback from the armed forces. Contract for the 70x turrets is worth around 367 mln. $ Clan_Ghost_Bear, Beer and Laser Shark 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramlaen Posted July 15, 2022 Report Share Posted July 15, 2022 https://polskieradio24.pl/5/1222/artykul/3001116 116 more M1A1 for Poland. watch_your_fire and Laser Shark 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serge Posted July 20, 2022 Report Share Posted July 20, 2022 Poland is said to purchase 180 K2 MBT for delivery by 2024. Talks are in progress about AS21 Redback. https://meta-defense.fr/2022/07/20/la-pologne-va-commander-180-chars-k2-670-canons-k9-et-48-avions-de-combat-fa-50-a-la-coree-du-sud/ Lord_James and Laser Shark 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gun Ready Posted July 21, 2022 Report Share Posted July 21, 2022 If the deal is really made, it will be i interesting how the Polish army will manage the fleet mix with Leopards, M1 and K2?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanch90 Posted July 21, 2022 Report Share Posted July 21, 2022 18 hours ago, Serge said: Poland is said to purchase 180 K2 MBT for delivery by 2024. Talks are in progress about AS21 Redback. https://meta-defense.fr/2022/07/20/la-pologne-va-commander-180-chars-k2-670-canons-k9-et-48-avions-de-combat-fa-50-a-la-coree-du-sud/ Thats gotta provoke some discomfort for those betting on the Borsuk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serge Posted July 21, 2022 Report Share Posted July 21, 2022 Maybe, we have to remind Poland had an heavy IFV in the past : Anders. So, if the future field army is articulated in both an heavy and a medium force, it can make sens. We have to remind they have a specific problem with their river system. This is why Borsuk is needed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SH_MM Posted July 21, 2022 Report Share Posted July 21, 2022 Honestly they could just as well revive Anders. They apparently don't want to buy the AS21 Redback, but the Redback hull and fit it with the ZSSW-30 turret of the Borsuk & latest Rosomak. The same turret could also be integrated into Anders with ease. Polish procurement is interesting... strongly driven by politics and somewhat erratic. Parts of the Polish defence industry are suing the government for the apparently cancellation of the Wilk program in favor of government-to-government deals. Rico 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serge Posted July 21, 2022 Report Share Posted July 21, 2022 I think AS21 is a little bit better than the Anders. The government appears to be the problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zadlo Posted July 22, 2022 Report Share Posted July 22, 2022 Only K2 deal is done... Redback and wheeled APC are still on the table. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serge Posted July 22, 2022 Report Share Posted July 22, 2022 We have to wait the 27 for full detail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serge Posted July 26, 2022 Report Share Posted July 26, 2022 I received this. https://defence24.pl/polityka-obronna/polska-kupi-1000-czolgow-blaszczak-planujemy-pozyskanie-dodatkowych-f-35-lub-f-15-wywiad Very interesting. First delivery of K2 will start this years. What I don’t understand is how can you switch from the Korean K2 MBT to the PL standard during an upgrade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zadlo Posted July 26, 2022 Report Share Posted July 26, 2022 4 hours ago, Serge said: What I don’t understand is how can you switch from the Korean K2 MBT to the PL standard during an upgrade. K2PL which is dealt is almost the same as K2NO. The only differences will be another APS (KAPS instead of Trophy), Polish-made parts, programator for M1147 integrated with CN08 and Leonardo DRS / Sitaware BMS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serge Posted July 26, 2022 Report Share Posted July 26, 2022 Both K2 and K2PL (considering what was shown) are very different. Passing from an 6 road wheels chassis to a 7 road wheels one is a challenge. Up-armoring an unarmoured tank is challenging too. Changing the pilot position too, and so on. Sharing both the same radio and BMS is a basic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zadlo Posted July 26, 2022 Report Share Posted July 26, 2022 1 hour ago, Serge said: Both K2 and K2PL (considering what was shown) are very different. Passing from an 6 road wheels chassis to a 7 road wheels one is a challenge. Up-armoring an unarmoured tank is challenging too. Changing the pilot position too, and so on. Sharing both the same radio and BMS is a basic. You don't understand me. K2PL which is signed tomorrow will use the same 6 road wheels chassis with the same driver position (and hull rack position) as in basic K2 and K2NO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serge Posted July 26, 2022 Report Share Posted July 26, 2022 So, I’m waiting If Poland wants a tank with a real armour, 6 road wheels will be short. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cleb Posted July 27, 2022 Report Share Posted July 27, 2022 Official details on the Polish contract for South Korean hardware https://www.gov.pl/web/obrona-narodowa/czolgi-k2-haubice-k9-i-samoloty-fa-50---wojsko-polskie-otrzyma-potezne-uzbrojenie-a-polski-przemysl-zbrojeniowy-silny-impuls-do-rozwoju Points of Note K2 Spoiler "K2 tanks - the order is divided into two stages - in the first stage, 180 tanks will be acquired (deliveries will begin later this year), and the second stage is more than 800 tanks in the K2PL standard - in 2026 the production of K2PL tanks will be launched in Poland. Tanks procured in the first stage will also be Polonized and brought to the K2PL standard." K9 Spoiler "As the Deputy Prime Minister noted, the first stage of deliveries, assuming the delivery of 48 cannon howitzers, will start this year." "Deliveries of more than 600 howitzers will start in 2024, and from 2026 they will be manufactured in Poland. From the very beginning, K9 will be equipped with Polish communication systems and will be plugged into the integrated Topaz combat management system." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serge Posted July 27, 2022 Report Share Posted July 27, 2022 Is the so called K2PL the same as the one showed few years ago ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted July 27, 2022 Report Share Posted July 27, 2022 I thought Polish Krab was based on K9 but wouldn't make sense to buy K9 then but great to see that Poland takes current situation serious and becomes no. 1 military power in Europe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voodoo Posted July 27, 2022 Report Share Posted July 27, 2022 The Krab has a K9 hull and a AS90 turret. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serge Posted July 27, 2022 Report Share Posted July 27, 2022 Braveheart AS90 turret. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serge Posted July 29, 2022 Report Share Posted July 29, 2022 The Huta Stalowa Wola CEO learned the K9 deal by Twitter. He must be very pleased. I think we will laugh at will soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serge Posted August 8, 2022 Report Share Posted August 8, 2022 Does anyone have more details about this plan ? I don’t have access to the full article. https://www.shephardmedia.com/news/landwarfareintl/poland-advances-plans-for-new-armoured-vehicles-from-south-korea/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serge Posted August 10, 2022 Report Share Posted August 10, 2022 The perfect Damian’s holiday camp just opened https://defence24.pl/sily-zbrojne/rusza-poznanska-akademia-abrams-blaszczak-116-czolgow-trafi-do-polski-przyszlym-roku-foto Laviduce, Clan_Ghost_Bear and watch_your_fire 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Żółć Posted October 20, 2022 Report Share Posted October 20, 2022 AS-21 Redback is undergoing testing in the 18th Mechanized Division. Stimpy75, Clan_Ghost_Bear and Cleb 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cleb Posted October 21, 2022 Report Share Posted October 21, 2022 More photos of the AS21 in Poland Spoiler Plus the respective video of the AS21 in Poland: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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