Israeli AFVs

[Lord_James]

3 hours ago, Eliz said:

I would not be surprised if it is china or india

Don’t ask, don’t tell

[VPZ]

On 11/19/2020 at 12:27 AM, Marsh said:

I have seen with my own eyes where some of the plate has come from. It surprised me. That is all I can, or will, say. 

 

Ukraine?

[VPZ]

 

Must be robotic D9 (Panda)

[Beer]

Ups

 

[Dinmoo]

On the Merkava IV above, what is the tube parallel with the ground, behind the Trophy APS, please?  

 

[David Moyes]

@Dinmoo Storage container for misfired rounds. So insurgents can't pick-up the discarded round and create bombs.

[Dinmoo]

7 hours ago, David Moyes said:

@Dinmoo Storage container for misfired rounds. So insurgents can't pick-up the discarded round and create bombs.

I don't know how this thing will work in a direct war zone !!

 

Are there clearer pictures of her work?

[LoooSeR]

[Wiedzmin]

 

Mk3 welded variant ?

 

 

Mk4 

[Wiedzmin]

 

[N-L-M]

[alanch90]

12 hours ago, Wiedzmin said:

 

 

 

This confirms that the side hull module has explosive contents. It reads "נָפִיץ" ("explosive") there. 

[LoooSeR]

[Newtonk]

On 11/27/2020 at 9:01 AM, Dinmoo said:

I don't know how this thing will work in a direct war zone !!

 

Are there clearer pictures of her work?

note the empty tube... 

[Wiedzmin]

 

made very rough model(only for understanding how geometry of detail look like IRL) of Mk4 frontal turret parts, right "wall" have trunnion resolver or something like that in "big hole"

[Wiedzmin]

 

https://yadlashiryon.com/news/16-בדצמבר-2020-טנק-המרכבה-סימן-1-האמנם-הייתה/

[Beer]

If I understand right, it's 1972 preliminary test fire result, i.e. many years before the final specification of the tank was set, right? 

[Wiedzmin]

as far as google translate - yes 1972

[Reta]

The latest iteration of Merkava is called Mark 4 Model 400, which has a newer C² system and enchaned TROPHY (you can tell by the added optical sensor). kinda interesting because although MK 4 had seen many modifications and improvements throughout the years this is IMO the first time that the IDF officially names a new Mark 4 version

 

https://www.idf.il/אתרים/חטיבה-188/2020/טנק-סימן-4-חטיבה-188/

[Wiedzmin]

On 1/7/2021 at 2:21 AM, alanch90 said:

 

This confirms that the side hull module has explosive contents. It reads "נָפִיץ" ("explosive") there. 

 

 

[Wiedzmin]

mk3 welded turret 

 

 

and casted

 

 

and engine bay "armor" wall

[Newtonk]

 

Another view of “That Tube”... that matches this, 

[Wiedzmin]

2 hours ago, Newtonk said:

Another view of “That Tube”... that matches this, 

tube used for failed ammo round IIRC, to not throw it to the ground where "someone" could pick it

[Adraste]

In 2019 there was a FMS contract for the IDF acquiring 240 MTU GD883 to equip new-built Namer. My question is since the water-cooled MTU engine is considerably more compact than the AVDS-1790, do you think the IDF intends to increase the number of crew seats by shrinking the size of the Namer's drive train compartment? 

 

Will it be considered as the Namer Mk II?

 

PS: I am putting a link of the report which went relatively unnoticed back then:

https://www.defenseworld.net/news/24259#.YABCYehKhPZ

 

[N-L-M]

The MTU 883 is not at all smaller than the AVDS 1790. The engines are approximately the same length, similar width (though the 883 is square and the AVDS is trapezoidal in section and a tad wider at the top), and with the cooling system on top similar height (though the MTU has a more optimised slope for hiding behind the glacis). You would note, that the engine compartment on the Merk 4 is not notably shorter than the same on the Merk 3.

Likewise, the Renk 325 transmission that goes with the 883 is slightly fatter than the Renk 304 which goes with the 1200 HP AVDS 1790, so there's no real room saved in the engine compartment. Definitely not the approximately 60 cm you'd need to cram in another seat.

I would also question the tactical utility of being able to seat more people in a Namer, as it already carries a full infantry squad.

 

The IDF don't appear to have said anything about it yet, but they tend to keep quiet anyway.